[yoyo]

Fair enough, but I guess I was trying to point out that these things are subjective opinion. I genuinely get tilted playing any software apart from Cake/Pacific after over 1 mil hands online now. Sure, Pacific has random bugs here and there, and yes, I totally agree money should be invested in building the platform up again from scratch, but the old Pacific software is really quite slick in many respects and very very fast.