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Thread: Aussie Millions Player of the Year 2012 (unofficial)

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    dalek Guest

    Post Aussie Millions Player of the Year 2012 (unofficial)

    Poker media and players alike often report that the Aussie Millions is the 2nd best tournament series after the World Series, or at worst, top 5. Therefore, I believe that Crown should have a Player of the Year award, or more accurately, Player of the Series award. So I've started an unofficial Player of the Year Award for the current series.

    Schedule: http://www.aussiemillions.com/download-schedule
    POY Formula: http://www.bluffmagazine.com/wsop-poy/formula.asp

    Notes:
    - for the purpose of the POY buy-in multiplier, the buy-in for rebuy events is prizepool/players (ie. avg buy-in)
    - at this stage, thinking the High Roller, Super High Roller, Chinese Poker and $550 events should NOT be included
    - Teams event will count, with both players receiving full points
    - undecided on whether the $25k NLH Semi-Shootout should be included

    All these issues can be decided upon in time for next year if an official POY Award is on offer.

    I welcome any constructive feedback. After 6 events, the standings are:

    Code:
    ##	PLAYER                 ITM     WINS	    $$$	     Pts
    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    1	Dan Kelly	        3	1	 92,875	  195.25
    2	Brendon Rubie	        1	1	200,000	  190.00
    3	Tom Middleton	        1	1	 84,200	  150.00
    4	Michael Pedley	        1	1	122,670	  137.50
    5	Scott Wilson	        1	-	125,000	  133.00
    6	Aaron Lim	        1	1	 36,734	  130.00
    7	Sandeep Pulusani	1	1	 37,500	  120.00
    8	Joel Dodds	        2	-	 62,135	  114.50
    9	Ali Ghezelbash          2	-	 29,755	  101.50
    10	Jonathan Karamalikis	1	-	 88,830	   96.25
    11	Rob Angood	        1	-	 80,000	   95.00
    12	Martin Kozlov	        1	-	 25,000	   84.00
    13	Oliver Speidel	        1	-	 24,750	   84.00
    14	John Thomson	        1	-	 61,000	   83.60
    15	Peter Skouteris	        1	-	 40,450	   75.00
    16	Tam Truong	        1	-	 49,000	   72.20
    17	Tyron Krost	        2	-	 42,265	   68.00
    18	Eric Sclavos	        2	-	 14,730	   66.90
    19	Jackie Glazier	        3	-	 20,465	   66.10
    20	Craig Cockburn	        1	-	 30,800	   66.00

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    Chromis Guest

    Default Re: Aussie Millions Player of the Year 2012 (unofficial)

    do you know eric sclavos make two final tables that counts for more

  3. #3
    dalek Guest

    Default Re: Aussie Millions Player of the Year 2012 (unofficial)

    As per the WSOP, the list is ordered by POY points.

    And Eric is not the only person to make 2 final tables so far.

    My layout is similar to that shown here: http://www.bluffmagazine.com/wsop-stats/

    But I think it could be good to add a Final Table column also.
    Last edited by dalek; 23-01-2012 at 11:20 AM.

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    thret Guest

    Default Re: Aussie Millions Player of the Year 2012 (unofficial)

    I think all tournaments on the schedule should be included.

    I guess that you are excluding the high roller events because they are not financially accessible to all players; but if this is the case why would you also exclude the $550 events?

    I think you're right though, they need a POY for AM.

  5. #5
    dalek Guest

    Default Re: Aussie Millions Player of the Year 2012 (unofficial)

    Quote Originally Posted by thret View Post
    I think all tournaments on the schedule should be included.

    I guess that you are excluding the high roller events because they are not financially accessible to all players; but if this is the case why would you also exclude the $550 events?

    I think you're right though, they need a POY for AM.
    I think the WSOP used to exclude the Players Championship. In fact, they also used to exclude the Main Event. I think a bigger reason for excluding the 100k and 250k results, as seen by the CardPlayer 2012 POY formula, is that a player like Seidel can jump from 13th to 3rd if HR/SHR results are given too much credit. I think the multipliers are wrong for big buy-in events.

    If the $550 events are to be included, they will need a lower buy-in multiplier than 1.00, maybe 0.75 (if using Bluff formula).

    CardPlayer have tweaked their POY formula this year:
    - Card Player Announces Changes For 2012 Player of the Year Formula - Poker News
    - Poker Player of the Year Scoring Criteria

    As this is just an unofficial POY, I'd be happy to play around with different scenarios and compare leaderboards if:
    - $550, 100k, 200k and Chinese events are excluded
    - all events are included
    - all events are included, including Chinese Poker
    - Bluff Magazine 2011 formula is used
    - CardPlayer 2012 formula is used
    Last edited by dalek; 23-01-2012 at 09:04 PM.

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    grunter Guest

    Default Re: Aussie Millions Player of the Year 2012 (unofficial)

    why would you exclude the Chinese?

    it isn't a super high roller and is a listed event.

    They don't exclude 2-7TD or similar events from WSOP POTY

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    dalek Guest

    Default Re: Aussie Millions Player of the Year 2012 (unofficial)

    Quote Originally Posted by grunter View Post
    why would you exclude the Chinese?

    it isn't a super high roller and is a listed event.

    They don't exclude 2-7TD or similar events from WSOP POTY
    My only reason to exclude Chinese Poker was because I can't find a points system for it, whereas Stud and Mix events do have a points system. Chinese hasn't been played at the World Series since 1996 and the POY only came into affect in 2004. Will have to make something up. But my whole intention with this unofficial POY has been to not reinvent the wheel, but to follow what the major events and publications do.

    But I'll include it. Be interested to see how many runners they get.
    Last edited by dalek; 24-01-2012 at 02:46 AM.

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    dalek Guest

    Default Re: Aussie Millions Player of the Year 2012 (unofficial)

    22 players for 100k High Roller. 23 runners for Chinese.

    Bluff Magazine POY (ie. the WSOP) requires a minimum of 27 players in a tournament.

    Card Player Magazine POY requires a minimum of 50 players in a tournament.

    I'll play around with some numbers.

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    Strong Play Guest

    Default Re: Aussie Millions Player of the Year 2012 (unofficial)

    the turbo 500 cubed should surely count, avg buyin will be > 1000 etc

  10. #10
    dalek Guest

    Default Re: Aussie Millions Player of the Year 2012 (unofficial)

    Updated to include all events up to Event 10 (excluding Main Event which is in progress). Have added a Final Table column.

    I feel that too much weight is given to results in the 100k and 250k events.

    If anyone cashes in both HR and SHR (like Trickett in 2011), chances are they would win the POY.

    Note 1: the buy-in multiplier for rebuy events is based on the average buy-in (prizepool/players)
    Note 2: the buy-in multiplier for buy-ins less than $1,000 is 0.75
    Note 3: the field-size multiplier for fields of less than 27 players is 0.90
    Note 4: points from Teams Events are not halved

    If you think anything should be changed or tweaked, please let me know. My aim is to not deviate greatly from the WSOP POY formula.

    Code:
    ## PLAYER               ITM  FTs  WINS        $$$     Pts
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    1  Dan Smith             1    1     1   1,012,000  270.00
    2  Dan Kelly             3    2     1      92,875  195.25
    3  Brendon Rubie         1    1     1     200,000  190.00
    4  Mikhail Smirnov       1    1     -     616,000  189.00
    5  Ross Parkhill         2    1     1     123,500  159.50
    6  Tom Middleton         1    1     1      84,200  150.00
    7  Aaron Lim             2    1     1      44,234  145.00
    8  Joe Hachem            2    1     -     333,115  142.50
    9  Michael Pedley        1    1     1     122,670  137.50
    10 Sandeep Pulusani      2    1     1      42,500  135.00
    11 Oliver Speidel        2    2     -      40,750  133.50
    12 Scott Wilson          1    1     -     125,000  133.00
    13 Ali Ghezelbash        3    2     -      30,925  123.50
    14 Mark Segal            2    1     1      16,230  119.00
    15 Tony Guoga            1    1     -     242,000  118.80
    16 Joel Dodds            2    1     -      62,135  114.50
    17 Paul Ravesi           1    1     1      12,480  110.00
    18 Michal Polchlopek     1    1     -      73,000  105.00
    19 Jonathan Karamalikis  1    1     -      88,830   96.25
    20 Rob Angood            1    1     -      80,000   95.00
    21 Martin Kozlov         1    1     -      25,000   84.00
    22 John Thomson          1    1     -      61,000   83.60
    23 Daniel Ratcliffe      1    1     -       8,190   77.00
    24 Julian Dieckhaus      1    1     -       8,190   77.00
    25 Sam Capra             1    1     -      50,000   75.00
    Last edited by dalek; 24-01-2012 at 09:59 PM.

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