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Old 14-03-2010, 12:05 PM
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Haven't read any of the replies so sorry if I'm repeating any1.

Omaha8 more than any poker variant is a post flop game. Any preflop strategy can work if you play the later streets very well (the reason for this is that preflop hand equities run extremely close together). Well that's not entirely true in that you can fold too much preflop but you could see every flop and still be a BIG winner. However certain hands play better... like AAwx, A23x, any suited Ace. Before the flop you want a hand that will fit or miss on the flop this makes your later decisions easier. Post flop you always want a made hand or if you are drawing you want to be drawing both ways preferably to the nuts, as the primary objective is to SCOOP. If the flop is good for you always raise and jam the pot as you want people folding and try to see the turn heads up - remember backdoor lows and high draw often get there in this game so it is to your advantage to drive those players out unless you have the immortal nuts. Don't worry 2 much about getting quartered in fixed limit, but it's a huge concern in pot limit.
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Old 14-03-2010, 06:18 PM
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Thanks for all the advice guys, some very useful stuff there. Maybe I should have posted earlier in the week.... lol

For starting hands, I basically tried to play high pairs JJ or better, A23x type hands or wrapped type hands (4567 etc) for the course of the night. Making sure I was always betting or raising when I was reasonably sure I was in front.

Strategy went fairly well, but ended up losing two big pots late when I flopped top set (AAA & KKK) on boards with no straights/flushes or lows available yet. Forced the action in both, but got mown down on the river both times.

Finished 5/12 in tourney, 2 of the top 4 knew what they were doing, the other 2 were total luckboxes. Playing 3 handed, one of them called on the river on an 888xA board with the case 8 in his hand because he didn't know if he actually had quads or not because he still didn't understand the whole 3 on the board, 2 from your hand situation, and thought the A on the board somehow cancelled out the 9 kicker he'd have to play from his hand.....

Need to start reading up for the stud 8 game later in the year
You should probably be tossing those JJ and QQ hands away most of the time. They're relatively useless.
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Old 14-03-2010, 06:39 PM
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Omaha8 more than any poker variant is a post flop game. Any preflop strategy can work if you play the later streets very well
Agree.

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(the reason for this is that preflop hand equities run extremely close together). Well that's not entirely true in that you can fold too much preflop but you could see every flop and still be a BIG winner.
Disagree. Disagree, what? No, you can't. The game is designed for nits.

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If the flop is good for you always raise and jam the pot as you want people folding and try to see the turn heads up - remember backdoor lows and high draw often get there in this game so it is to your advantage to drive those players out unless you have the immortal nuts.
Agree. Don't slow play anything.
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Old 14-03-2010, 11:14 PM
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Disagree. Disagree, what? No, you can't. The game is designed for nits.
FR is designed for rakeback pros nitting it up.
I'd sooner kill myself than play FR LO8
4 max is where it's at.
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Old 15-03-2010, 06:38 AM
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Omaha8 more than any poker variant is a post flop game.

Not really, preflop hand selection is more important in PLO8 than PLO imo

Any preflop strategy can work if you play the later streets very well (the reason for this is that preflop hand equities run extremely close together).

Try defending KT94 in the SB and see how you fare

Well that's not entirely true in that you can fold too much preflop but you could see every flop and still be a BIG winner.


No one could beat any reasonable stakes PLO8 game with a vpip of 100% or anything close to it


However certain hands play better... like AAwx, A23x, any suited Ace. Before the flop you want a hand that will fit or miss on the flop this makes your later decisions easier. Post flop you always want a made hand or if you are drawing you want to be drawing both ways preferably to the nuts, as the primary objective is to SCOOP. If the flop is good for you always raise and jam the pot as you want people folding and try to see the turn heads up - remember backdoor lows and high draw often get there in this game so it is to your advantage to drive those players out unless you have the immortal nuts. Don't worry 2 much about getting quartered in fixed limit, but it's a huge concern in pot limit.

All of this is good though
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Old 15-03-2010, 07:17 AM
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FR is designed for rakeback pros nitting it up.
I'd sooner kill myself than play FR LO8
4 max is where it's at.
I see no mention of 4max in your previous post.
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Old 15-03-2010, 12:48 PM
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No one could beat any reasonable stakes PLO8 game with a vpip of 100% or anything close to it
I wasn't talking about PLO8 tho. And your comment above is too general - it depends on how deep the effective stacks are and if it's SH or FR, also the quality of the opponents. I will admit that my initial comment was hyperbolic but I was trying to get across the point that if you are a good post flop player you can take a lot of flops and starting hands are usually all quite close equity wise except for like the bottom 10% of hands.
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Old 15-03-2010, 12:53 PM
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I see no mention of 4max in your previous post.
Well I didn't see you mention FR when you said that the game is designed for nits. My point was merely that not all forms of the game are designed for nits. The only real money being made in LO8 cash games is being made in 6max 4max and HU.
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