My AA Play sucks....

[scar3face]

Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

edit: also 6 out of 21 times = 40%??

Gee, what an original post. You couldn't even think up your own response, you had to plagiarize one from a movie.

[Tahfan]

How do I play pocket aces without feeling like I've played like a donk or not extracted any value?

I shove preflop and win the blinds....or I limp/raise get called by donks and lose. I know there is no one answer but various people's opinions are good to read and consider.

My latest donk out:

PokerStars Game #41160332989: Tournament #301010003, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2010/03/15 7:22:38 AEST [2010/03/14 16:22:38 ET]
Table '301010003 2890' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: xManuel1981 (2925 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: MrMaxwell777 (3015 in chips)
Seat 3: 2lexa1971 (2835 in chips)
Seat 4: Alaskan_chic (3325 in chips)
Seat 5: ckj123 (3138 in chips)
Seat 6: WatchOut2006 (2962 in chips)
Seat 7: 18undsexy (2850 in chips)
Seat 8: gabela9 (2875 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: Mas D.T.L.L (3228 in chips)
gabela9: posts small blind 25
Mas D.T.L.L: posts big blind 50

Am I just unlucky in this example?

Only thing I notice in this specific example is you are in early position & the blind levels are really low. Never underestimate the power of the donkey to call the "standard" 3x raise in this sit with nearly any 2. Make it 4-5 and see if they still call.

Once the flop hits what can you do? You are a massive favourite and got 6 outered.

[Gtrain24]

Once the flop hits what can you do? You are a massive favourite and got 6 outered.

Villain turned a flush draw also sir, so he has more than 6 outs. Any 7, J or diamond.

[Tahfan]

Villain turned a flush draw also sir, so he has more than 6 outs. Any 7, J or diamond.

Ahh fair point missed that...

[JacksonTens]

I'm not sure if this will help, but here is an expert way to play AA postflop.

Do not think of it as AA, think of it as a class of hand.

i.e. on a J84

AA is essentially in the same class as AJ,QQ,KK,AA,84,J4

Your opponent *should* play all these hands in essentially the same manner.

Beginner players have a predisposition to overplaying "shiny" hands such as sets KK and AA, yet they can somehow laydown Top pairs. It is irrational.

I hope this improves the way you think about the game.

JT

[Thaps]

I think in general in the 1 table sngs.. you are never really playing too deep so I think you are best to try and extract value and if you get unlucky... you well get unlucky! Try and find places to double up, so when you get AA, ideally you want to play for stacks and really hope it holds up.

I know that sounds very simple, but I would think of it differently in a MTT with deeper stack sizes and such. In those MTT tournis on the flop you had more often than not I would go for it but there are definitely flops that are scary that you have to slow down and think about whether you wish to proceed.

Shipping it in pre I dont think you get the correct value for AA... just my opinion