My AA Play sucks....

[MrMaxwell]

How do I play pocket aces without feeling like I've played like a donk or not extracted any value?

I shove preflop and win the blinds....or I limp/raise get called by donks and lose. I know there is no one answer but various people's opinions are good to read and consider.

My latest donk out:

PokerStars Game #41160332989: Tournament #301010003, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2010/03/15 7:22:38 AEST [2010/03/14 16:22:38 ET]
Table '301010003 2890' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: xManuel1981 (2925 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: MrMaxwell777 (3015 in chips)
Seat 3: 2lexa1971 (2835 in chips)
Seat 4: Alaskan_chic (3325 in chips)
Seat 5: ckj123 (3138 in chips)
Seat 6: WatchOut2006 (2962 in chips)
Seat 7: 18undsexy (2850 in chips)
Seat 8: gabela9 (2875 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: Mas D.T.L.L (3228 in chips)
gabela9: posts small blind 25
Mas D.T.L.L: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to MrMaxwell777 [Ad Ah]
xManuel1981: folds
MrMaxwell777: raises 100 to 150
2lexa1971: folds
Alaskan_chic: folds
ckj123: calls 150
WatchOut2006: folds
18undsexy: folds
gabela9: folds
Mas D.T.L.L: folds
*** FLOP *** [7c 2c Td]
MrMaxwell777: bets 300
ckj123: raises 2688 to 2988 and is all-in
MrMaxwell777: calls 2565 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (123) returned to ckj123
*** TURN *** [7c 2c Td] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [7c 2c Td Qd] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MrMaxwell777: shows [Ad Ah] (a pair of Aces)
ckj123: shows [Jd 7d] (two pair, Jacks and Sevens)
ckj123 collected 6105 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6105 | Rake 0
Board [7c 2c Td Qd Jc]
Seat 1: xManuel1981 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: MrMaxwell777 showed [Ad Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 3: 2lexa1971 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Alaskan_chic folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ckj123 showed [Jd 7d] and won (6105) with two pair, Jacks and Sevens
Seat 6: WatchOut2006 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: 18undsexy (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: gabela9 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Mas D.T.L.L (big blind) folded before Flop

This loose aggressive donked me...I knew he hit a pair but was also sure he did not have a set/two pair from his previous crazy raises/calls.

Am I just unlucky in this example?

[risk2Dupside]

Originally Posted by MrMaxwell

Am I just unlucky in this example?

Board: 7c 2c Td
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 76.465% 76.46% 00.00% 757 0.00 { AdAh }
Hand 1: 23.535% 23.54% 00.00% 233 0.00 { Jd7d }

yes

[djkelly69]

in lower level tournaments (which usually dont play very deep), making a std raise and not folding post flop unless there is like 4 callers and a 789hhh board is a good basic idea with AA.

obv example hand is unlucky, i assume you already know this if you are playing (and rolled for) $10 tourneys.

[Colmaca]

I been keeping my stats since Jan 2010 , heres what I got

1st few weeks play I used to bet small on AA sometimes limp in or bet 2 X

15 wins 6 losses

then after that I decided to raise 10 times the BB at start game and when blinds get over 100 I do about 5 to 6 times and later in game maybe less .

results since betting more 54 wins 3 losses about 20 preflop wins . I'm happy with this result its better than losing 40%

[twostate]

Originally Posted by Colmaca

I been keeping my stats since Jan 2010 , heres what I got

1st few weeks play I used to bet small on AA sometimes limp in or bet 2 X

15 wins 6 losses

then after that I decided to raise 10 times the BB at start game and when blinds get over 100 I do about 5 to 6 times and later in game maybe less .

results since betting more 54 wins 3 losses about 20 preflop wins . I'm happy with this result its better than losing 40%

You raise 10 x the big blind?

[djkelly69]

Originally Posted by Colmaca

I been keeping my stats since Jan 2010 , heres what I got

1st few weeks play I used to bet small on AA sometimes limp in or bet 2 X

15 wins 6 losses

then after that I decided to raise 10 times the BB at start game and when blinds get over 100 I do about 5 to 6 times and later in game maybe less .

results since betting more 54 wins 3 losses about 20 preflop wins . I'm happy with this result its better than losing 40%

Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

edit: also 6 out of 21 times = 40%??

[RAWKZ]

Originally Posted by Colmaca

I been keeping my stats since Jan 2010 , heres what I got

1st few weeks play I used to bet small on AA sometimes limp in or bet 2 X

15 wins 6 losses

then after that I decided to raise 10 times the BB at start game and when blinds get over 100 I do about 5 to 6 times and later in game maybe less .

results since betting more 54 wins 3 losses about 20 preflop wins . I'm happy with this result its better than losing 40%

thanks for imparting this wisdom upon us

[Vman]

Originally Posted by djkelly69

Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

edit: also 6 out of 21 times = 40%??

tell him what u really think next time..........

There are rules for beginners corner in regard to responses. I think u could have responded without the abuse.

[djkelly69]

ftr when i responded it was in Hand Discussion.

[MrMaxwell]

Originally Posted by djkelly69

ftr when i responded it was in Hand Discussion.

I originally posted this in hand discussion....now the mods have labelled me a beginner! Oh the horror