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Old 01-09-2010, 03:15 PM
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Can I just ask an add on question: -

do people seriously think that you should play 1c/2c until you crush it before moving up? At the moment i am playing alot of 1/2c on stars as I have no money on that site and not alot of time at the moment so decided to just play here and there a bit until I have more time to spend on my game. but its so all over the place at that level cause you cant play certain bluffs and you have to ABC it. I just think it makes more sense to start at a decent level and just fund that out of cash. if you go live your spending at least $200 in a losing session at most casino's so if your not willing to spend at least that on a deposit - why are you playing?

did you play inside your bankroll the entire time or have you pplayed outside of it on occassion?


just interested in people thoughts.
We all have mate, its the biggest roll killer of all.

Also dont forget if ur a fulltime worker looking to grind seriously your at a major disadvantage as if your like myself ur lucky to play 20 hours a week while most grinders will be putting in triple that.
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Old 01-09-2010, 04:56 PM
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actually at the moment i am playing like 2-3 hours a week if that. some weeks none.

Anyway. i cant be bothered playing 2/4c or 1/2c I would rather not play.

and suggest you learn more at higher limits if you can afford to play them.
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Old 02-09-2010, 01:06 AM
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actually at the moment i am playing like 2-3 hours a week if that. some weeks none.

Anyway. i cant be bothered playing 2/4c or 1/2c I would rather not play.

and suggest you learn more at higher limits if you can afford to play them.
Play 5c/10c the average player is alot better than the 2/4c game but the avg pot is more like $2.50-3 instead of $1. Youll probably learn a bit more from these games and they wont break your roll (unless you go on a massive bad run)
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Old 02-09-2010, 02:38 AM
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If you look up guys like Andy McLEOD, CNT_CRUSHER, and many more unknown 109 an 215 regs, you will see that they did not follow BR rules/guidelines from the start of their playing days. Was this because they were just simply gifted/talented or were they prepared to put their $ on the line and learn from the best.

Risk2Dupside is probably the only person I have seen (from this forum anyway) who has advanced through proper BR management, as far as I know.

A lot of the Sun Mil winners, were low stakes ($2, $3 and $4 etc) regs until their major win. (I have argued this point before)

Can anyone explain this?
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Old 02-09-2010, 03:22 AM
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If you have other income then play any level you want, it doesnt matter.

If you have to rely on poker income and only that then playing outside your bankroll is a very bad idea. What do you do when you have no means of earning an income?

When you are 17-18 and living at home going broke poker wise probably means nothing but if you are paying rent and have no backup its a different story.
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Old 02-09-2010, 05:27 PM
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If you have other income then play any level you want, it doesnt matter.
This. Play any level you are comfortable at. If you find yourself playing tight/scared, then it might be the $$ worrying you.
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Old 03-09-2010, 12:00 PM
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If you look up guys like Andy McLEOD, CNT_CRUSHER, and many more unknown 109 an 215 regs, you will see that they did not follow BR rules/guidelines from the start of their playing days. Was this because they were just simply gifted/talented or were they prepared to put their $ on the line and learn from the best.

Risk2Dupside is probably the only person I have seen (from this forum anyway) who has advanced through proper BR management, as far as I know.

A lot of the Sun Mil winners, were low stakes ($2, $3 and $4 etc) regs until their major win. (I have argued this point before)

Can anyone explain this?
How could you know that? Just because they started playing higher stakes mtts doesn't mean that they didnt have the br to support it.
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Old 19-10-2010, 06:59 PM
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BR management is only REALLY important if you are expecting to have a bank roll that will overtake your normal living income from other sources... that is, if you want to attempt poker professionally, otherwise you should play with as much money as you are willing to lose... for me, as someone who fears being addicted to gambling, i have a constant rule to never gamble more than 1% of my net income.. for some that would be a huge amount, not me at the moment though lol
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Old 20-10-2010, 01:24 PM
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BR management is only REALLY important if you are expecting to have a bank roll that will overtake your normal living income from other sources... that is, if you want to attempt poker professionally, otherwise you should play with as much money as you are willing to lose... for me, as someone who fears being addicted to gambling, i have a constant rule to never gamble more than 1% of my net income.. for some that would be a huge amount, not me at the moment though lol
I read a great article about three years ago but basically the point was that your roll is vitally important to the extent you cant replace it. ie if you could replace a $10K roll with six months savings then that is not a long time but if you took 4 years to replace it then that is bad. so you want to run your roll based on ability to replace it if you lose some of it. so if its six months work then you might play roll/20 NLHE$500 if its 4 years you might play roll/50 NLHE$200.

similar concept to yours dont risk what you not willing to lose.

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Old 23-10-2010, 10:11 AM
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First you need to find/learn your game, then set a bankroll plan based on one of the multiple theory's and stick to it.

I am a month into the 2nd part after spending 12 months on the 1st part and liking the positive results already.
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