Played Correctly

[BubbleBoy]

Seat 1: Fruttil (3,030)
Seat 2: TorstenKuhl (6,178)
Seat 3: topflight8 (9,180)
Seat 4: kelmar1303 (5,469)
Seat 5: luismartinez87 (6,070)
Seat 6: jgreeneswife (1,470)
Seat 7: UmustBelieve (4,620)
Seat 8: Me (2,610)
Seat 9: ljs1977 (4,865)
TorstenKuhl posts the small blind of 60
topflight8 posts the big blind of 120
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt Me [Ac Kc]
kelmar1303 folds
luismartinez87 folds
jgreeneswife calls 120
UmustBelieve folds
Me has 8 seconds left to act
Me raises to 360
ljs1977 folds
Fruttil calls 360
TorstenKuhl folds
topflight8 folds
jgreeneswife calls 240
*** FLOP *** [3h As 5c]
jgreeneswife checks
Me bets 720
Fruttil calls 720
jgreeneswife folds
*** TURN *** [3h As 5c] [8d]
Me bets 1,530, and is all in
Fruttil calls 1,530
Me shows [Ac Kc]
Fruttil shows [Qc Qd]
*** RIVER *** [3h As 5c 8d] [Qs]
Me shows a pair of Aces
Fruttil shows three of a kind, Queens
Fruttil wins the pot (5,760) with three of a kind, Queens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5,760 | Rake 0
Board: [3h As 5c 8d Qs]
Seat 1: Fruttil (button) showed [Qc Qd] and won (5,760) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 2: TorstenKuhl (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: topflight8 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: kelmar1303 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: luismartinez87 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: jgreeneswife folded on the Flop
Seat 7: UmustBelieve didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Me showed [Ac Kc] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 9: ljs1977 didn't bet (folded)


Should I have moved all-in on the flop? Or is the result the same?

[whitey9999]

Yeh probably shove on flop, but he wouldve called anyway
Just unlucky

[SwoopAE]

LOL it's fine you bet bet bet and were ahead on every street and got called by a worse hand.

This is a bad beat, there is nothing you can do about it, but it is not a hand worth posting for discussion as you clearly made the correct decision (maybe bet slightly less on the flop to induce action from hands you crush if anything) on each street and just got unlucky.

Move onto the next hand and worry more about the hands where you get outplayed than the hands where you get unlucky. Learning to spot the difference between the two so that you can work on plugging leaks in your game is the difference between being a winning and losing player.

[SwoopAE]

Yeh probably shove on flop, but he wouldve called anyway
Just unlucky

Also this is terrible advice overbetting on this flop when we have his range completely smashed is a terrible idea. The bet size you made should be about the maximum amount we bet here as we WANT worse hands to call us here as they will usually have only 2-3 outs and we can then shove any turn.

[BubbleBoy]

LOL it's fine you bet bet bet and were ahead on every street and got called by a worse hand.

This is a bad beat, there is nothing you can do about it, but it is not a hand worth posting for discussion as you clearly made the correct decision (maybe bet slightly less on the flop to induce action from hands you crush if anything) on each street and just got unlucky.

Move onto the next hand and worry more about the hands where you get outplayed than the hands where you get unlucky. Learning to spot the difference between the two so that you can work on plugging leaks in your game is the difference between being a winning and losing player.

Ok thanks. What about this hand? lol

[BubbleBoy]

Seat 1: seibula (3,035)
Seat 2: marco antonio10 (3,000)
Seat 3: Turtle_NLP_ (3,725)
Seat 4: RelayLaundry (2,910)
Seat 5: papparuss (3,000)
Seat 6: Fish_club (2,925)
Seat 7: wiciu777 (3,275)
Seat 8: Me (3,075)
Seat 9: AlpacaTheBird (2,590)
seibula posts the small blind of 15
marco antonio10 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Me [Kc Ks]
Turtle_NLP_ folds
RelayLaundry folds
Fish_club folds
wiciu777 calls 30
Me raises to 120
AlpacaTheBird folds
seibula folds
marco antonio10 calls 90
wiciu777 calls 90
*** FLOP *** [Jd Qc 2h]
marco antonio10 checks
wiciu777 checks
Me bets 300
marco antonio10 raises to 900
wiciu777 raises to 3,155, and is all in
Me has 15 seconds left to act
Me has requested TIME
Me calls 2,655, and is all in
marco antonio10 calls 1,980, and is all in
wiciu777 shows [2d 2c]
Me shows [Kc Ks]
marco antonio10 shows [9d Qs]
Uncalled bet of 200 returned to wiciu777
*** TURN *** [Jd Qc 2h] [8c]
*** RIVER *** [Jd Qc 2h 8c] [9s]
wiciu777 shows three of a kind, Twos
Me shows a pair of Kings
wiciu777 wins the side pot (150) with three of a kind, Twos
marco antonio10 shows two pair, Queens and Nines
wiciu777 wins the main pot (9,015) with three of a kind, Twos
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9,165 Main pot 9,015. Side pot 150. | Rake 0
Board: [Jd Qc 2h 8c 9s]
Seat 1: seibula (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: marco antonio10 (big blind) showed [9d Qs] and lost with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 3: Turtle_NLP_ didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: RelayLaundry didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: papparuss is sitting out
Seat 6: Fish_club didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: wiciu777 showed [2d 2c] and won (9,165) with three of a kind, Twos
Seat 8: Me showed [Kc Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 9: AlpacaTheBird (button) didn't bet (folded)


Should I have folded? I registered 10min to a tourney and this is my 11th hand so I have no info on them.

[SwoopAE]

At anything with a buyin below $5 its probably safe to call off here; anything higher or if villain is a breakeven/winning player and it's a pretty easy fold since his range should be 22, QJ pretty much (maybe some flatted QQ/JJ and KT/AQ as well, it depends)

At micros they can have all sorts of random crap though so just dont fold overpairs. Basically, it depends on a) whether villain is a winning/breakeven player and b) the buyin level here

In a vacuum I would say yes we can fold here though, there are no flush draws on board and with a bet and a raise villain is unlikely to 3bet a worse hand (AQ?) unless he is terrible, since you can't call with worse hands.

What was the buyin level here and what are villain's stats? (both villains actually)

Also if you have a close spot and no info you can quickly sharkscope or OPR them to find out at least if they're winning or losing players. I'd be more likely to call off against a losing player in this situation but i'm always folding to a winning player.

[BubbleBoy]

At anything with a buyin below $5 its probably safe to call off here; anything higher or if villain is a breakeven/winning player and it's a pretty easy fold since his range should be 22, QJ pretty much (maybe some flatted QQ/JJ and KT/AQ as well, it depends)

At micros they can have all sorts of random crap though so just dont fold overpairs. Basically, it depends on a) whether villain is a winning/breakeven player and b) the buyin level here

In a vacuum I would say yes we can fold here though, there are no flush draws on board and with a bet and a raise villain is unlikely to 3bet a worse hand (AQ?) unless he is terrible, since you can't call with worse hands.

What was the buyin level here and what are villain's stats? (both villains actually)

Also if you have a close spot and no info you can quickly sharkscope or OPR them to find out at least if they're winning or losing players. I'd be more likely to call off against a losing player in this situation but i'm always folding to a winning player.

I've never really looked at if they are a winning or losing player. Is that something I should be doing?

I think it was a $26 tourney.

I figured the only hands that could beat me are Q,J and 2,2 as I doubt he has A's, Q's or J's. But I also thought he could have K,Q or A,Q.

[SwoopAE]

It's probably a fold in a $257 unless your opponent is down 50k or whatever then you just call it off since he's a spastic

Obviously stat reads matter more than winning or losing player reads but its a good way to get a read on someone in a vacuum if you have timebank

[FSL009]

I would bet an extra BB pre-flop. 3x +1 for each caller, but doubt it changes much here.

but the rest of the hand is fine and the end is just variance.