Shown the nuts, do we call?

[Trent]

I found this hand pretty interesting and would like to share it. Its a very simple odds calculation that a lot of players on the table seem to have gotten wrong. Basically villain accidentally opens hand and shows the nut straight, and hero has the nut flush draw. Does he call.

2/4 Treasury

Preflop: Hero has Ac9c and limps in mid position, maybe another limper somewhere, Villian in SB calls, BB checks

Flop: 2c4c6d ($16) - Villain bets $10, BB raises to $25 (very aggressive short stacker $100), Hero raises to $60, limpers fold, Villain pushes for $190 total, BB thinks a lot and eventually folds, Hero covers so its $130 to call?

Villain then accidentally shows his hand 3s5c, thinking hero has called. Does Hero have the odds to call? What would you do at the table, and whats the correct play?

I'm only interested in the last action, but knock yourself out if you want to critique the other play, and I will provide the required reads.

[Tony]

Its a call

[thret]

Mods, care to move this to the beginner section?

[moffo47]

LOL $85/CALL

[smokinsam69]

LOL $85/CALL

Man that's some funny shit.

[risk2Dupside]

LOL $85/CALL

This is funnier, poor Dana Gordon

[TrappedUnderIce]

definately should of been more aggressive pre flop with such a short stacker.

try and commit the short stacked player preflop and then you can eliminate the luck of post flop play and simply rely on choosing the best hand pre flop.

Sometimes you just gotta take a coin flip and pray for the best, it's tough when you lose but when you flop a flush it's awesome & you can rub it in hard.

Also, the player who flopped the nuts would of folded pre flop and you would most likely win the blinds and limpers.

better to win a small pot then lose a big one.

goodluck.

[moffo47]

fwiw you have to call $130 into $301... you are getting 2.3/1 on your money, this means we need 30% equity. we have 8 outs twice, so we have ~32% equity which means we should
CALL

[moffo47]

definately should of been more aggressive pre flop with such a short stacker.

try and commit the short stacked player preflop and then you can eliminate the luck of post flop play and simply rely on choosing the best hand pre flop.

Sometimes you just gotta take a coin flip and pray for the best, it's tough when you lose but when you flop a flush it's awesome & you can rub it in hard.

Also, the player who flopped the nuts would of folded pre flop and you would most likely win the blinds and limpers.

better to win a small pot then lose a big one.

goodluck.

Mr. TrappedUnderIce, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[TrappedUnderIce]

Mr. TrappedUnderIce,

i stopped reading there.

you might laugh at me "moffo" (if that's even your real name), but I have helped your game alot in the past and corrected some of your biggest leaks to turn you into the player you are today.

thank me now, or later. it doesn't bother me.