Owned... in 13 hands

[pokerbok]

New player lumpia712 sits down at my table and....Seat 1: Mark Vos ($1,000)Seat 2: good2cu ($1,696.25)Seat 3: lumpia712 ($1,000)Seat 4: Furbreath ($366.10)Seat 5: migs2 ($1,563.75)Seat 6: Table Hustler ($509)Table Hustler posts the small blind of $5Mark Vos posts the big blind of $10The button is in seat #5*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Mark Vos [4s 6s]good2cu foldslumpia712 raises to $35Furbreath foldsmigs2 calls $35Table Hustler foldsMark Vos raises to $147lumpia712 calls $112migs2 folds*** FLOP *** [Ac 4h 6h]Mark Vos bets $244lumpia712 raises to $488Mark Vos raises to $853, and is all inlumpia712 calls $365, and is all inMark Vos shows [4s 6s]lumpia712 shows [As Jd]*** TURN *** [Ac 4h 6h] [7s]*** RIVER *** [Ac 4h 6h 7s] [7d]Mark Vos shows two pair, Sevens and Sixeslumpia712 shows two pair, Aces and Sevenslumpia712 wins the pot ($2,037) with two pair, Aces and SevensMark Vos adds $1,000Then....Seat 1: Mark Vos ($1,879)Seat 2: good2cu ($1,157)Seat 3: lumpia712 ($1,959)Seat 4: Furbreath ($271.10)Seat 5: migs2 ($1,455.75)Seat 6: Table Hustler ($695)Table Hustler posts the small blind of $5Mark Vos posts the big blind of $10The button is in seat #5*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Mark Vos [As 9s]good2cu foldslumpia712 raises to $35Furbreath foldsmigs2 calls $35Table Hustler calls $30Mark Vos calls $25*** FLOP *** [3s Ah Ad]Table Hustler checksMark Vos checkslumpia712 bets $140migs2 foldsTable Hustler foldsMark Vos calls $140*** TURN *** [3s Ah Ad] [Th]Mark Vos checkslumpia712 checks*** RIVER *** [3s Ah Ad Th] [9d]Mark Vos checkslumpia712 bets $450Mark Vos calls $450*** SHOW DOWN ***lumpia712 shows [Ac Tc] (a full house, Aces full of Tens)Mark Vos muckslumpia712 wins the pot ($1,317) with a full house, Aces full of TensThen.....Seat 1: Mark Vos ($1,416)Seat 2: good2cu ($1,102)Seat 3: lumpia712 ($2,656)Seat 4: Furbreath ($271.10)Seat 5: migs2 ($1,420.75)Seat 6: Table Hustler ($545)lumpia712 posts the small blind of $5Furbreath posts the big blind of $10The button is in seat #2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Mark Vos [7c 7s]migs2 foldsTable Hustler calls $10Mark Vos raises to $45good2cu foldslumpia712 calls $40Furbreath calls $35Table Hustler calls $35*** FLOP *** [2c 4h 7h]lumpia712 bets $150Furbreath foldsTable Hustler foldsMark Vos calls $150*** TURN *** [2c 4h 7h] [5d]lumpia712 bets $350Mark Vos raises to $1,221, and is all inlumpia712 has 15 seconds left to actlumpia712 calls $871Mark Vos shows [7c 7s]lumpia712 shows [Td Th]Table Hustler: no respect*** RIVER *** [2c 4h 7h 5d] [Tc]Mark Vos shows three of a kind, Sevenslumpia712 shows three of a kind, Tenslumpia712 wins the pot ($2,919) with three of a kind, TensMark Vos is sitting outBlergh!

[Punty]

Impressive check-call in the second hand.

[soda]

meh, not sure how u dont lose your stack in the 2nd hand either

[yoyo]

Very few players fire out pot with a lone Ace in that spot - it usually achieves little. I would probably lose my stack though anyway.

[jimmie]

check-call...and on both 4th & 5th streets. Good instinct.O_o

[Andrew LeRoy]

1) Bottom 2 aint much especially when they are sooo very low.2) Why play it if you aint getting stacked when it fills up? Hand 1 tells you he will unwind with Ax. But impressive read.3) Genuine bad beat.

[Punty]

1) Your chance is better if you had 96 and the flop came A96?2) Just because you play and fill up you feel obligated to put all your chips in even when you think it is a bad play?And hand 1 provides evidence, though hardly significant, that he would unwind with Ax on the turn. But he didn't. He then bets big on the river.

[Trent]

1) Your chance is better if you had 96 and the flop came A96?Actually yes. I think you are being results orientated. Without knowing your opponents hole cards, having bottom two pair on a A96 board is better then a A64 board, in terms of being outdrawn by a larger two pair.For example: imagine the opponent turned over 7h8h on the Ac 4h 6h flop, and the turn and river came 7 A, or 8 A, or 8 7; bottom two pair would be outdrawn. Where on a Ac 6h 9h, the 7h8h can't make two pair larger then the current bottom two pair. Or we could consider the unlikely holding of 67, again this could outdraw on one flop and not the other. Thats why higher cards are better, and the quality of two pair is also dependent on its size.Mark, I also can't see how you don't lose your stack on the 2nd hand. Just looking at the betting I can't see any tell there. A "new player" could take that betting line with many different hands. Or was it a timing tell?Trent

[yoyo]

I think it's a very well played hand from Vos - but that's all it is. I will lead the river here more often than not as I multi-table and don't put the right amount of thought into each hand, and don't think as quick yet as people like Vos, but at the end of the day, check-raising in that spot is really bad, and players who can't see that reading a HH at leisure don't play 5/10nl. I would struggle when multi-tabling to not lead out on the river, but as played, it's an easy call and nothing more. If you lead out, you probably have to fold to any raise, so you might as well check-call. The streets leading up to the river are generically standard.

[Blu3B3ar]

Second nut full-house call-down is to me the most impressive hand ever posted here.