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    Default how should I have played this?

    I know I didn't play this right.

    Dealer: chipleiter posts Small Blind $0.50
    Dealer: UlliKulli posts Big Blind $1
    Dealer: Dealing cards
    Dealer: Your cards Kh Ks
    Dealer: chipleiter raises to $3
    Dealer: UlliKulli calls $2
    Dealer: Dealing Flop
    2h 5d 6h
    Dealer: UlliKulli bets $4
    Dealer: chipleiter calls $4
    Dealer: Dealing Turn
    2h 5d 6h Qs
    Dealer: UlliKulli bets $12
    Dealer: chipleiter raises to $24
    Dealer: UlliKulli calls $12
    Dealer: Dealing River
    2h 5d 6h Qs Qd
    Dealer: UlliKulli checks
    Dealer: chipleiter checks
    Dealer: chipleiter shows Two Pair
    Kh Ks
    Dealer: chipleiter wins with Two Pair
    6h Qd Qs Kh Ks $61
    Dealer: chipleiter wins with Two Pair
    6h Qd Qs Kh Ks $61

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    Default Re: how should I have played this?

    Checking behind on the river is pretty bad, I'd bet around 2/3 of the pot. Don't really like the min raise on the turn either. I'd flat call about 25% of the time, the other 75% of the time I'm raising to around $36-$45. Agree with your play pre-flop and on the flop.
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    Default Re: how should I have played this?

    Stack Sizes? is this a H/U table or 6max and you've cut the rest off? - so little info...

    Make it $4 Preflop

    Raise Flop

    Raise Turn - look to get it in here.
    Seriously rickwaa be more of a loser.

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    Default Re: how should I have played this?

    Raise flop..

    If he's drawing, he gives you a chance to price himself out of the draw, if you make a big raise. If he has 33/44 or 77-QQ, or even if he is leading with ace high, you don't know...

    To me it looks like 8-7. Great flop, up and down with two overcards, and if he puts you on an overpair, he can get paid nicely with a nine, and maybe even the four. If he puts you on air, he can potentially bluff you out on the turn...

    If you raise the flop, and make a big play on the turn, you either take it down, or you win more when he overplays his draw. His line of betting doesn't look particuarly strong on the turn, especially, to have you beat.

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    Default Re: how should I have played this?

    Nothing wrong with just calling the flop bet because if his opponent has complete air he is sure to fire on the turn, and thats where you can get a raise in.

    By calling you gain a bet that you might not have got by raising the flop. However I don't like the min-raise on the turn. In terms of the river maybe a $15 value bet could do. Wouldn't want to check, but don't want to jam either. Really want to get a call out of an ace high, or 1/10 times induce a bluff.
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    Default Re: how should I have played this?

    Quote Originally Posted by thkcduckworth View Post
    if his opponent has complete air he is sure to fire on the turn, and thats where you can get a raise in.
    Not so sure I agree with that - why would he fire the turn with nothing?

    And if he doesn't fire you have cost yourself in terms of making him pay max to hit his draw, or if he checks behind he can hit his draw for free.

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    Default Re: how should I have played this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gtrain24 View Post
    Not so sure I agree with that - why would he fire the turn with nothing?

    And if he doesn't fire you have cost yourself in terms of making him pay max to hit his draw, or if he checks behind he can hit his draw for free.
    How can your opponent check behind if he is out of position?

    Reraising on the flop might be best if your opponent has a draw but it will make most other 1 pair type hands fold and if he has air you make nothing more. Calling in position on the flop can work well if youur opponent likes to fire a 2nd bullet on the turn as this will encourage him to continue bluffing with air esp if he thinks you could be just floating his flop bets with air

    As usual it is very dependant on what type of player your opponent is and what type of hand you put him on. I don't think we have enough info to say that the OP played incorectly on the flop but his min raise on the turn was questionable at best and his check on the river was much worse.
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    Default Re: how should I have played this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Strong Play View Post
    Stack Sizes? is this a H/U table or 6max and you've cut the rest off? - so little info...

    Make it $4 Preflop

    Raise Flop

    Raise Turn - look to get it in here.
    It's hu.

    I raised to $3.00 as that had been the standard pre bet with him and I didn't want to give a tell.

    The flop call was weak but I wanted to give him another chance to fire at the turn, but again I didn't want to scare him off at the turn with a 3 bet..

    The river scared me as I thought he may have had AQ and the river I decided to check it down instead of a re-raise although on refelction I am leaning towards an all in altough he would not have called as he had a busted flush draw.

    So that being said a 3 bet on the turn would have been a smarter play as he would have check/folded on the river anyway


    sorry and stacks where 100 can't remeber how mcuh I had taken off him at that stage ..
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    Default Re: how should I have played this?

    Quote Originally Posted by PimpedHerOut View Post
    How can your opponent check behind if he is out of position?
    If I read the HH correctly then the OP was in the SB and therefore the villain had position on him the whole hand, therefore he could check behind.

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    Default Re: how should I have played this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gtrain24 View Post
    If I read the HH correctly then the OP was in the SB and therefore the villain had position on him the whole hand, therefore he could check behind.
    You obviously have never played HU b4 then. SB is first to act pre-flop but then is last to act on subsequent betting streets.
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