Flat or Shove?

[USUALSUSPECT]

Live $22 1R1A

Villains are both a little fishy, one fairly passive, one loose agro but a luckbox!

blinds 400/800
both villains are sitting around 20k
I have 26k

blinds 400/800

folds to MP2 who limps
C/O: limps
BTN: Me - - I raise it to 3500

blinds fold

MP2 and C/O both call

flop:


MP2 fires 6000
C/O calls

I have roughly 22k behind....

with the 3 diamonds should I flat and or should I commit?
I don't want to see another diamond

If I shove its 16k more and has both of them covered....
Im 33% against any two diamonds.... and 65% against a draw

Who folds the Ad here?

Top set on a XdXdXd board with two aggressors... I got lost

[TrappedUnderIce]

yeah, get it in there.

[risk2Dupside]

I've learnt from others that when someone donks into you like this you say,

"No mate. That doesn't play here."

Then stick your chips in

[grunter]

Live $22 1R1A

Villains are both a little fishy, one fairly passive, one loose agro but a luckbox!

blinds 400/800
both villains are sitting around 20k
I have 26k

blinds 400/800

folds to MP2 who limps
C/O: limps
BTN: Me - - I raise it to 3500

blinds fold

MP2 and C/O both call

flop:


MP2 fires 6000
C/O calls

I have roughly 22k behind....

with the 3 diamonds should I flat and or should I commit?
I don't want to see another diamond

If I shove its 16k more and has both of them covered....
Im 33% against any two diamonds.... and 65% against a draw

Who folds the Ad here?

Top set on a XdXdXd board with two aggressors... I got lost

Preflop is pretty bad. Make it 2k ish. (edit: my apologies, didnt notice the limpers) Raise size is fine.

As played pls don't ever fold this flop.

[dave798111]

Preflop is pretty bad. Make it 2k ish. (edit: my apologies, didnt notice the limpers) Raise size is fine.

As played pls don't ever fold this flop.

yeah just shove obv. There would be some circumstances where you might flat or raise and flat a flop 3-bet, but this would be with far deeper stacks.

I assume the aggro guy donked and the passive guy flatted? If so I would say you are going to be in pretty good shape here a large % of the time. If the passive guy donked it's still a shove but probably no fist pump.

[Murphmaester]

Have you used your rebuy? Not sure it makes much difference to your decision but would at least make me feel a bit better if the flush does hit.

I was in a very similar spot on Sunday and did shove only to be called by someone who had flopped a flush, the river however paired the board and for once I got a suckout (And here was me thinking they never happen to me!!).

I am never folding a set to someone I suspect has nothing more then a flush draw, In fact I never fold a set. Shove this.

[USUALSUSPECT]

blinds are 400/800
rebuy and addon period has expired.....

I shoving here 100%

I just wanted to see if flatting was also a reasonable plan of attack considering my read said overpair & FD/pair & FD

flat the flop... turn bricks... easier to shove my 16k?
flat the flop... turn binks a diamond.... fold?

anyway.... I shove 22k over the 6k lead... they both tanked and called 16k



showdown VS VS ....

the diamond lobs the river.... a warning for abuse after he scoops.... gg

[Murphmaester]

Unlucky, sorry, I should have read the title of the post, lol. I still think you made the best decision though, flatting might let you see the river but surely most people are folding to a shove here, even with a Kd?

[Al]

Unlucky, sorry, I should have read the title of the post, lol. I still think you made the best decision though, flatting might let you see the river but surely most people are folding to a shove here, even with a Kd?

Umm, dont we want them both to call?