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    Default OK Line With Ace Queen?

    Table #24033482 - Finders Keep
    Starting Hand #1143117381
    Start time of hand: 19 Jan 2010 00:44:36
    Last Hand #1143115176
    Game Type: HOLD'EM
    Limit Type: NO LIMIT
    Table Type: RING
    Money Type: REAL MONEY
    Blinds are now $0.10/$0.25
    Button is at seat 9
    Seat 1: Backer187 - $29.21
    Seat 2: HopeToGetLucky - $8.45
    Seat 3: tRaMSt0p - $32.42
    Seat 4: TeslAAlive - $26.06
    Seat 5: fernandele - $23.59
    Seat 6: oceanova - $12.20
    Seat 7: Yera02 - $29.80
    Seat 8: TheGonza - $24.65
    Seat 9: balata972 - $18.82
    Seat 10: Twanga - $7.75
    Moving Button to seat 10
    Backer187 posts small blind ($0.10)
    HopeToGetLucky posts big blind ($0.25)
    Shuffling Deck
    Dealing Cards
    Dealing to tRaMSt0p
    tRaMSt0p raises to $1
    TeslAAlive did not respond in time and is folded
    TeslAAlive folds
    fernandele calls $1
    oceanova folds
    Yera02 calls $1
    TheGonza folds
    balata972 folds
    Twanga folds
    Backer187 folds
    HopeToGetLucky folds
    Dealing Flop
    tRaMSt0p bets $2
    fernandele calls $2
    Yera02 folds
    Dealing Turn
    tRaMSt0p bets $2
    fernandele calls $2
    Dealing River
    tRaMSt0p bets $4.75
    fernandele calls $4.75
    Taking Rake of $1.04 from pot 1
    tRaMSt0p shows
    tRaMSt0p has Three of a Kind: Queens
    fernandele mucks
    tRaMSt0p wins $19.81 with: Three of a Kind: Queens
    End Of Hand #1143117381


    Wanna hear some thoughts on my line . . . flaming is welcome!

    Looking at the hand I think I bet too small on the turn, because I'm fairly sure he has a flush draw (and not top pair) after just calling behind on the flop.

    On the river, he is never calling with a flush draw, but may peel lightly - therefore I bet just below pot.
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    Default Re: OK Line With Ace Queen?

    personally, i dump AQo UTG at a full table.

    as played, not really sure what the purpose of the turn bet was.

    flop and river seem ok.

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    Default Re: OK Line With Ace Queen?

    Quote Originally Posted by HelloJohnny View Post
    personally, i dump AQo UTG at a full table.

    as played, not really sure what the purpose of the turn bet was.

    flop and river seem ok.
    pretty much
    Seriously rickwaa be more of a loser.

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    Default Re: OK Line With Ace Queen?

    Was the turn bet based on a read?

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    Default Re: OK Line With Ace Queen?

    Why did you bet the turn?

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    Default Re: OK Line With Ace Queen?

    also why 4x, is that your standard open?

    and prob fine at this limit, but the semi blocker bet on turn, will leave you open to being pushed around in bigger games, as I feel its quite transparent..

    Rest is fine, not folding AQo utg at .10/.25 personally...

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    Default Re: OK Line With Ace Queen?

    i don't think betting the turn is that bad as it i'm getting a flush or straight draw to put some more money in the pot

    suggestions to why not to bet the turn?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurnRiva View Post
    also why 4x, is that your standard open?
    4x is pretty standard at this limit on this site . . . why? what do you suggest Tim?

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    Default Re: OK Line With Ace Queen?

    3x ep 2.5x lp?

    I think its very player dependant (IE depends on your game), I like to play smaller pots and have pot control, I feel it allows me to cbet comfortably more, and then make the same 2barrell/3b decisions more comfy..

    In reality in a cash game when you can reload its fine, I was just checking that you weren't randomly 4x'ing a hand, because again it makes your ranges transparent..

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    Default Re: OK Line With Ace Queen?

    also, dont forget, just because it's standard at that game and limit, doesnt mean you have to do it too, if it suits your game, great go for it.. if you know what i mean..

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    Default Re: OK Line With Ace Queen?

    this may be bad, but when i open to 3x in early position i tend to get a table of callers . . . which i suppose isn't too bad when i have something solid, but in reality its not great playing pots 7 handed

    it must be noted - from experience - the play on PKR is very loose, so opening 4x pre with Ace-big punishes many players that play Ace-little as you can get three streets of value with top pair

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