To shove or fold?

[GRETZKY427]

Full Tilt Poker Game #18780871443: $1 + $0.20 Sit & Go (142610570), Table 1 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:51:34 ET - 2010/02/26
Seat 2: wonderkid23 (4,360)
Seat 3: GRETZKY427 (3,615)
Seat 4: HParra (3,225)
Seat 5: batamanxxx (1,420)
Seat 9: smbal (880)
wonderkid23 posts the small blind of 40
GRETZKY427 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GRETZKY427 [Kd Qh]
HParra calls 80
batamanxxx folds
smbal folds
wonderkid23 raises to 240
GRETZKY427 calls 160
HParra calls 160
*** FLOP *** [4d Jc Qc]
wonderkid23 checks
GRETZKY427 bets 450
batamanxxx: y pppitttauuus mooolchaaat
HParra has 15 seconds left to act
HParra folds
wonderkid23 calls 450
*** TURN *** [4d Jc Qc] [7h]
wonderkid23 bets 800
GRETZKY427 raises to 2,925, and is all in
wonderkid23 calls 2,125
GRETZKY427 shows [Kd Qh]
wonderkid23 shows [Tc Kc]
*** RIVER *** [4d Jc Qc 7h] [9d]
GRETZKY427 shows a pair of Queens
wonderkid23 shows a straight, King high
wonderkid23 wins the pot (7,470) with a straight, King high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7,470 | Rake 0
Board: [4d Jc Qc 7h 9d]
Seat 2: wonderkid23 (small blind) showed [Tc Kc] and won (7,470) with a straight, King high
Seat 3: GRETZKY427 (big blind) showed [Kd Qh] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 4: HParra folded on the Flop
Seat 5: batamanxxx didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: smbal (button) didn't bet (folded)

[fullhouse]

Hey mate,
I would have folded when "wonderkid" raised....cheers

[whitey9999]

Hey you just got unlucky, you were the in front when you moved in, and he went with his 17 out draw
you made the right move imo

[Al]

Well since you lost its pretty obvious you should of folded.

[USUALSUSPECT]

Originally Posted by Al

Well since you lost its pretty obvious you should of folded.

qft

[hip]

GRET. When in doubt, go to this website

Poker Odds Calculator : Calculate Texas Holdem Poker Odds

It will tell you about the % of time you will win the hand.

The idea is, if most the $ went in on the turn (like in your hand), then enter the flop and turn into the calculator (+your cards, and he's cards) and calculate the odds.

If you are >50% favourite, then it was probably a good shove.
If you are <50% favourite, then it may be something to discuss in this forum OR you may come to the realisation that it was just bad play on your own behalf.

[vodo4ka]

Im a beginner but it looks like a good play, you made him pay to see the cards.

[SwoopAE]

As played preflop I call turn, call river or vbet river if checked to you dont have much to protect against on turn that you arent crushing (his exact hand is the only one) and you want him to bluff the river if thats what hes doing or minimise damage when he has 2p+ while still getting to showdown

[SwoopAE]

Wait just saw two clubs on the flop disregard that.

Go with your read on the turn shove or fold is fine. Fold against nits shove against most players.