Deep tourney play - AJ facing 3-bet shove

[chenyan]

$24 + 2 on Full Tilt. 23 players left; I'm sitting 13th. I've been fairly tight, although last hand showed down with QJ (Called from SB) to win a pot against an MP raiser.

Villain is SB, little shorter than us, no real reads unfortunately.

Question stems from two issues:

1) Is he shoving extra light because he needs the squeeze, and I'm a button raiser?

2) Given my shortish stack, is it worth giving up perhaps a little 'equity' to gather the chips here which would put me 4th/22.

Full Tilt Poker Game #19009396281: $18,000 Guarantee (144327601), Table 3 - 1500/3000 Ante 400 - No Limit Hold'em - 5:40:17 ET - 2010/03/06
Seat 1: QuagmireYMSB (70,890)
Seat 2: clown-at-large (114,164)
Seat 3: STACEY7522 (211,067)
Seat 4: fingersfayries (104,744)
Seat 5: MeatBuoy (93,759)
Seat 7: jacksorbetter (104,743)
Seat 9: ghost_491 (89,614)
QuagmireYMSB antes 400
clown-at-large antes 400
STACEY7522 antes 400
fingersfayries antes 400
MeatBuoy antes 400
jacksorbetter antes 400
ghost_491 antes 400
QuagmireYMSB posts the small blind of 1,500
clown-at-large posts the big blind of 3,000
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ghost_491 [As Jc]
STACEY7522 folds
fingersfayries folds
MeatBuoy folds
jacksorbetter folds
ghost_491 raises to 9,000
QuagmireYMSB raises to 70,490, and is all in
clown-at-large folds
ghost_491 to call - 61k

I think it's a fold, but I got caught up on the whole button raise/shorty squeeze issue.

Cheers

[TurnRiva]

Prob calling here pretty often

[DanChile]

Just the two of you @ showdown, call the flip, luck of the draw prevails

[djkelly69]

snap call at higher lvls, but in a $24 it is kinda iffy if he is shoving 23bbs really wide.

still a call imo, but no snap.

[Al]

No squeeze here either right?

[dave798111]

No squeeze here either right?

yeah not a squeeze. This is close - I think it actually depends how good you are - ie how big your skill edge here is. I would open smaller pre - to between 6700 and 7500 - and I think I would probably fold. At higher levels this is a pretty clear snap call but I think a good player has a huge edge at this point in a $26 mtt and can just open a tonne and accumulate chips v easily. Obv if you start opening a lot and ppl start jamming on you a lot this becomes a snap call.

[TurnRiva]

I mean without reads, I think we should be calling here almost always, prob even vs the nittiest nits

[dave798111]

I mean without reads, I think we should be calling here almost always, prob even vs the nittiest nits

eh I disagree we have 30bbs in one of the softest tournaments online with 23 left. If I had seen this guy reshove before, or if I had any info which suggested he had an idea about reshoving ranges, I would call. Otherwise I would just fold because we aren't hugely ahead of a nittard's rehsoving range, and we can accumulate a huge number of chips raise folding pre.

Actually, I think in game I would probably call but I think we should fold.

[TurnRiva]

There more I think about, the more im pretty sure we can never rly fold here

[Strong Play]

raise folding AJ here seems odd...