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Old 10-03-2010, 03:35 PM
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Two options here 1) 3bet flop get it in

2) Flat as you did, then fistpump put the rest in on any brick turn (eg, the Tc)
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Old 10-03-2010, 04:57 PM
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raise pre; limpers and oop poster
I'm raising here a lot!
on flop as played raise ,doesn't always mean set at this level could be tptk raising out draws so o/p,2pr will call.
sounds like you got mubs
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Old 10-03-2010, 05:15 PM
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Reviewing the hand, flatting pre i think is fine, checking the flop is fine, but maybe I could have check-raised 3bet to say $28 to push out draws and make life easier on the turn for me.

flatting no(unless your playing fit or fold which is bad and very exploitable imo)
ch flop no(pot big enough,players at this level will call with worse,flush draw)

if full ring is about making hands and 6 max is about stealing blinds what category does the way you played this hand fit into?

Everyone plays differing styles but this line is very exploitable and one I see a lot playing 6max.if your not going to raise with low pockets pre and not reraising flop with set your ranges can become unbalanced,then when you do raise your range tends to be polarised and makes it way too easy for attentive players to get away from your big hands imo.
This will not be exploited by the average player at this stake but just something I'm putting out there to think about
I am interested to hear what other players think about this
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Old 10-03-2010, 05:45 PM
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Folding here is in the same league as this

The Worst Play Ever
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Old 10-03-2010, 08:04 PM
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Sounds like you are waiting to make a big hero fold somewhere. Like you said, you are over analysing the hand, but if you were really analysing it at any length, you would probably realise that folding is horrible.

You wait around for ages to hit sets, so why are you looking for reasons to fold it?
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Old 15-03-2010, 02:16 AM
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Hey Tim,
heres my 2cents.

Assuming the line you took as played..

You are really only beat by 3,3. We have to assume QQ and TT are unlikely in CO's limp range with fuck all pre flop action before him.


Your line seems to be consistent with someone setting a trap... so why fold?
Not likely they are putting you on a set, rather a naked draw like 4,5 etc.

Most likely Loke is betting QX (QTo, QJo etc) but could easily be on a draw picking up a pair on the turn etc.
CO most likely QT given he limps pre and has no fold equity shoving the turn but again could be holding AhTh, Ah3h, 4h5h less likely 3hTh etc as a lot of PKR micro stakes donks will shove combo draws if they have any showdown value. As mentioned 3,3 is certainly in his range but its the only hand that crushes you.

As far as table dynamics are concerned, player in CO could be calling Loke light given it was his first hand and maybe hit Qs up on turn or ThXh on turn.

All angles considered u r never folding in that spot. Easy decision IMO. If either have 3,3 then Cooler.
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Old 15-03-2010, 02:18 AM
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Be sick if LOKE checked his BB first hand with TT or QQ though lol. It happens.

Interested to know what they showed down.
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Old 15-03-2010, 02:56 PM
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forget anything i said i thought it was 6 max
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Old 16-03-2010, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: Good Fold or Bad Fold?

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Be sick if LOKE checked his BB first hand with TT or QQ though lol. It happens.

Interested to know what they showed down.
Loke had Q-3 and the other player Queen-x.

Definitely stick it in in this situation next time.
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