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    Default TT Set on 4 straight river facing raise from tightish guy 25nl

    Villian 15/7/5 [~300 hands]

    Fold to C-bet 82% [9/11]
    Fold to Flop Bet 80% [12/15]

    My standard is usually to c-bet this flop however given:
    His fold stats on flop were very high
    I expect a lot of folds on this board
    There are very few draws

    I decide to check to get the value on later streets, allowing him to catch up with 2P, worse set etc, and because if he has a big hand [88, AT] his going to put the money in for me.

    Is this standard shove on the river for value from worse sets and two-pairs?

    Even with his fold on flop stats does everyone just prefer c-betting flop? I would also check Ax on this flop sometimes so my flop range wouldn't be that polarized.


    Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
    The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

    MP1: $23.00
    MP2: $25.60
    CO: $22.80
    BTN: $14.50
    SB: $10.25
    BB: $23.10
    Hero (UTG): $27.50
    UTG+1: $19.10
    UTG+2: $27.30

    Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with T:spade: T:club:
    Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, MP2 calls $1, 4 folds

    Flop: ($2.35) T:diamond: 8:heart: A:spade: (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP2 checks

    Turn: ($2.35) 6:heart: (2 players)
    Hero bets $1.50, MP2 calls $1.50

    River: ($5.35) 9:diamond: (2 players)
    Hero bets $2.75, MP2 raises to $8

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    Default Re: TT Set on 4 straight river facing raise from tightish guy 25nl

    Given his Stats ide probably spew then fold.

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    Default Re: TT Set on 4 straight river facing raise from tightish guy 25nl

    It's fairly disgusting but I can't see this particular guy bluffing here.

    Fold and move on.

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    Default Re: TT Set on 4 straight river facing raise from tightish guy 25nl

    when hitting set your trying to get stack in .
    checking flop does not help this against this type of opponent.
    If you think hes aggro and going to bet flop then checking is fine but this player isnt going to raise flop behind you w'out a set ,big ace type hand,2pr.He probably would check drawing hands too.
    if he doesn't bet flop hes not calling turn unless he improves so hes getting cards for nothing.
    after the turn and he calls your bet the river is not a good card
    what about check calling?
    if your willing to lead out $2.75 what if you check and he bets pot.($5.35)
    allows players to bet their worse hands and cheaper if hes hit.
    you can still ch/fold

    against this player I would be trying to see as many flops against him as possible.isolating his raises and raisng his blinds or when we have position on him.he plays so fit or fold!
    I would cbet nearly 100% of hands against him so when I do have a hand like this he has to call/raise or I'm just running all over him.
    his hand range is so narrow after flop that post flop play becomes easier(unless he adjusts of course)these nit players will only stack off with big hands, that there is much more value in stealing
    And you will usually end up frustrating them,cause them to make errors and forcing them out of their comfort zone making them play back at you
    this type of line has more overall value than hitting big hands,trying to let them catch up and stacking them(how often does this happen?) imo.
    hope this makes sense.

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    Default Re: TT Set on 4 straight river facing raise from tightish guy 25nl

    I think your adjustment to this guy and players like him is wrong. If he fold to cbets alot then raise more often pre(you can raise less say 3x) and c bet more. That way you can just bet hands like this.

    I feel your line and maybe your thought process here is a bit of FPS, and you dont really have to worry about balance and polarised ranges so much at this level and many levels above.

    As for this hand, I think its a little thin to raise this river. Although I'm not sure what sevens he can have I also dont know what worse hands this guy raises for value here. Just call.

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    Default Re: TT Set on 4 straight river facing raise from tightish guy 25nl

    He has A7 or air, most likely A7. Getting 3:1 but I'd still need to know that he was capable of bluffing to call. Vs a strange nit I would just let it go.
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    Default Re: TT Set on 4 straight river facing raise from tightish guy 25nl

    would a nit flat a 4x open from MP2 with A7?

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