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    Default whats my line?

    $2.20/180 turbo
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    PokerStars Game #43066086598: Tournament #265722409, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2010/04/23 19:27:11 AEST [2010/04/23 5:27:11 ET]
    Table '265722409 8' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: Pavel_Frants (9305 in chips)
    Seat 2: BrunoMTA (11950 in chips)
    Seat 3: BlackLineArm (6836 in chips)
    Seat 4: GlennPlumber (3443 in chips)
    Seat 5: YOMUSS (12535 in chips)
    Seat 7: Leif56 (10010 in chips)
    Seat 9: u$uaL$u$pect (6474 in chips)
    Pavel_Frants: posts the ante 75
    BrunoMTA: posts the ante 75
    BlackLineArm: posts the ante 75
    GlennPlumber: posts the ante 75
    YOMUSS: posts the ante 75
    Leif56: posts the ante 75
    u$uaL$u$pect: posts the ante 75
    Leif56: posts small blind 400
    u$uaL$u$pect: posts big blind 800
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to u$uaL$u$pect [Qh 5h]
    Pavel_Frants: folds
    BrunoMTA: calls 800
    BlackLineArm: calls 800
    GlennPlumber: folds
    YOMUSS: folds
    Leif56: folds
    u$uaL$u$pect: checks
    *** FLOP *** [8h 7s 6h]

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    Default Re: whats my line?

    check shovizzle.....

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    Default Re: whats my line?

    (limp1) is 21/12
    (limp2) is 35/5

    do I ever lead?
    do I ever semi bluff shove?
    Last edited by USUALSUSPECT; 24-04-2010 at 09:08 AM.

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    Default Re: whats my line?

    i like leading 1800 calling it off. theres already 3325 in the pot on the flop and you have 5600 behind. check jamming doesnt really make much sense with this stacksize and you would hate for it to be checked through.

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    Default Re: whats my line?

    yep super clear check jam

    (i might jam pre too)

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    Default Re: whats my line?

    Quote Originally Posted by zander24 View Post
    check jamming doesnt really make much sense with this stacksize and you would hate for it to be checked through.
    If we bet it's pretty obvious we are committed, so people are gonna fold a lot when we bet...if we check we are obviously hoping someone stabs at the pot since they will then be committed when we stick it in. So with this stack size it makes plenty of sense.

    If it's checked thru then we lead turn, we still have tons of equity against random one pair hands.

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    Default Re: whats my line?

    I mean it's not unheard of for us to have FE on a pos bet either, so again think its pretty clear c/ai

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    Default Re: whats my line?

    my thought pattern was...

    a) its a turbo
    b) there is 3.5kish in the pot which is around 40% stack improvement
    c) both opp folding is also success
    d) I dont want both opp in pot
    e) I want all my money in

    so... I deciding on leading and instead I brainfart donk shoved 5600>3500 and was snap called by A6o...

    good result getting A6o to call where Im a 65% fav

    bad result when turn and river brick 3c 3s

    I definitely think check/shove is optimal
    Last edited by USUALSUSPECT; 24-04-2010 at 10:14 PM.

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    Default Re: whats my line?

    I mean ideally, if you're going to get called in one spot, its fine getting called in two with you hand, DUCY

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    Default Re: whats my line?

    I guess this spot is all part of volume and education
    next time I will be a little more patient and weathered....

    I have spent the last few hours scrutinising this hand with Stove running every realistic scenario... and I do see multiway all ins is probably the nut scenario

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