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    GRETZKY427 is offline PNW Amateur
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    Full Tilt Poker Game #20974644047: Daily Double - A (160009062), Table 111 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:23:38 ET - 2010/05/19
    Seat 1: Hero (1,065)
    Seat 2: Villian (6,865)
    Seat 3: Stush1996 (1,955)
    Seat 5: HomeBrewin (4,055)
    Seat 6: Gibbyson33 (1,830)
    Seat 7: brentkiwi (695)
    Seat 8: maratonista (2,130)
    Seat 9: rotkraut (1,955)
    Villian posts the small blind of 20
    Stush1996 posts the big blind of 40
    The button is in seat #1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero [Th Jh]
    HomeBrewin folds
    Gibbyson33 folds
    brentkiwi folds
    maratonista has 15 seconds left to act
    maratonista calls 40
    rotkraut folds
    Hero calls 40
    Villian calls 20
    Stush1996 checks
    *** FLOP *** [8s 6h 4h]
    Villian checks
    Stush1996 checks
    maratonista checks
    Hero checks
    *** TURN *** [8s 6h 4h] [Js]
    Villian bets 120
    Stush1996 calls 120
    maratonista calls 120
    Hero raises to 385
    B_MIL_08 sits down
    Villian raises to 1,555
    Stush1996 folds
    maratonista folds
    Hero ???

    What is my move here? ill show all the out come later on.

    Villian has been semi active at the table not affraid of showing aggression pre and post flop.

    When the flop comes out to be [8s 6h 4h] im thinking nice im on a J high flush draw, although i maybe behind at this present time i have outs, hearts, J's, 9/Q or 7/9 on the turn/river.

    Was my mistake checking the flop? if i bet the flop would that have given me away i might have been on a flush draw or somting like an AJ-10J type of hand?

    Also if i bet the flop and was raised, this would have set alarms bells off thinking that he maybe on a small-medium pocket pair connecting with the board, AA, AK, KK, or QQ even AJ-QJ and he still would have been a head?

    The turn comes out to be [8s 6h 4h] [Js] although i didnt hit my flush on the turn, ive still got the river to hit 1 of my 9 heart outs, plus pairing my J's i can now his a J on the river to give me trip J's. But me not knowing this would have given my opponenet a fullhouse.

    Not that i reraised on the turn with my opponent putting me all in could have i folded here or was i to pot comitted as i thought i was?

    Did i get to married to my flush draw and pair of J's?

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    Default Re: What play to do...

    685 to win 2,400 ish

    i lean towards calling.

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    Default Re: What play to do...

    you're 20% (4 to 1 dog) against his strongest range (75o,75s,44,66,88,JJ)
    you're getting 4-1 on you're short stack
    plus you're a favourite against a higher flush draw

    please don't ever fold
    Last edited by USUALSUSPECT; 20-05-2010 at 11:39 PM.

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    Default Re: What play to do...

    He re-raises all in with 3 active players behind - most of the time you are beat here.

    Villan would have to expect (likely want) at least 1 caller.

    I fold here, you had a go at it - but his betting indicates a stronger hand then Top Pair.

    If not it is a daring and stupid play on his behalf.

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    Default Re: What play to do...

    I called...

    Villian shows [4s 4d]
    Hero shows [Th Jh]

    Board: [8s 6h 4h Js Ad]

    Seat 1: Hero (button) showed [Th Jh] and lost with a pair of Jacks
    Seat 2: Villian (small blind) showed [4s 4d] and won (2,450) with three of a kind, Fours

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    Default Re: What play to do...

    An opponent who is checking that board with a set is asking to get felted.

    Bet flop and call all-in or shove a reraise.
    Shove Turn.

    As played, call turn.

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    Default Re: What play to do...

    Quote Originally Posted by g-matic View Post
    He re-raises all in with 3 active players behind - most of the time you are beat here.

    Villan would have to expect (likely want) at least 1 caller.

    I fold here, you had a go at it - but his betting indicates a stronger hand then Top Pair.

    If not it is a daring and stupid play on his behalf.
    loooool

    bet flop, bet/call turn

    as played snap call his raise

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    Default Re: What play to do...

    Cheers everyone for your responses, keep them coming

    I should have bet/call flop then if i faced a reraise then i could have either possible shoved the turn or thought about it alot more and even fold i suppose thinking that hes holding a set-being that i have some many outs.

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    Default Re: What play to do...

    I have no idea why you didn't bet the flop when it was checked to you with two overs and a flush draw.

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