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    Full Tilt Poker Game #22496586734: $32,000 Guarantee (173537002), Table 26 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:10 ET - Wed, July 21, 2010
    Seat 1: metsfan86 (10,355)
    Seat 2: raffyk9 (17,789)
    Seat 3: kikoman88 (11,030)
    Seat 4: brislion (27,485)
    Seat 5: romchris (15,032)
    Seat 6: KINGSFOOL3 (28,209)
    Seat 7: moffo47 (15,647)
    Seat 8: voff voff voff (23,574)
    Seat 9: zikzira (32,929)
    metsfan86 antes 125
    raffyk9 antes 125
    kikoman88 antes 125
    brislion antes 125
    romchris antes 125
    KINGSFOOL3 antes 125
    moffo47 antes 125
    voff voff voff antes 125
    zikzira antes 125
    moffo47 posts the small blind of 500
    voff voff voff posts the big blind of 1,000
    The button is in seat #6
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to brislion [Qh As]
    zikzira folds
    metsfan86 folds
    raffyk9 has 15 seconds left to act
    raffyk9 has timed out
    raffyk9 folds
    raffyk9 is sitting out
    kikoman88 folds
    raffyk9 has returned
    brislion raises to 2,500
    romchris raises to 14,907, and is all in
    KINGSFOOL3 folds
    moffo47 has 15 seconds left to act
    moffo47 has timed out
    moffo47 folds
    moffo47 is sitting out
    voff voff voff folds
    brislion has 15 seconds left to act
    brislion calls 12,407
    romchris shows [Th Tc]
    brislion shows [Qh As]
    *** FLOP *** [4c 4h 8h]
    *** TURN *** [4c 4h 8h] [3d]
    moffo47 has returned
    *** RIVER *** [4c 4h 8h 3d] [2s]
    romchris shows two pair, Tens and Fours
    brislion shows a pair of Fours
    romchris wins the pot (32,439) with two pair, Tens and Fours
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 32,439 | Rake 0
    Board: [4c 4h 8h 3d 2s]
    Seat 1: metsfan86 folded before the Flop
    Seat 2: raffyk9 folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: kikoman88 folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: brislion showed [Qh As] and lost with a pair of Fours
    Seat 5: romchris showed [Th Tc] and won (32,439) with two pair, Tens and Fours
    Seat 6: KINGSFOOL3 (button) folded before the Flop
    Seat 7: moffo47 (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 8: voff voff voff (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 9: zikzira folded before the Flop

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    Default Re: is this a standard call?

    Quote Originally Posted by noggo View Post
    Full Tilt Poker Game #22496586734: $32,000 Guarantee (173537002), Table 26 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:10 ET - Wed, July 21, 2010
    Seat 1: metsfan86 (10,355)
    Seat 2: raffyk9 (17,789)
    Seat 3: kikoman88 (11,030)
    Seat 4: brislion (27,485)
    Seat 5: romchris (15,032)
    Seat 6: KINGSFOOL3 (28,209)
    Seat 7: moffo47 (15,647)
    Seat 8: voff voff voff (23,574)
    Seat 9: zikzira (32,929)
    metsfan86 antes 125
    raffyk9 antes 125
    kikoman88 antes 125
    brislion antes 125
    romchris antes 125
    KINGSFOOL3 antes 125
    moffo47 antes 125
    voff voff voff antes 125
    zikzira antes 125
    moffo47 posts the small blind of 500
    voff voff voff posts the big blind of 1,000
    The button is in seat #6
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to brislion [Qh As]
    zikzira folds
    metsfan86 folds
    raffyk9 has 15 seconds left to act
    raffyk9 has timed out
    raffyk9 folds
    raffyk9 is sitting out
    kikoman88 folds
    raffyk9 has returned
    brislion raises to 2,500
    romchris raises to 14,907, and is all in
    KINGSFOOL3 folds
    moffo47 has 15 seconds left to act
    moffo47 has timed out
    moffo47 folds
    moffo47 is sitting out
    voff voff voff folds
    brislion has 15 seconds left to act
    brislion calls 12,407
    romchris shows [Th Tc]
    brislion shows [Qh As]
    *** FLOP *** [4c 4h 8h]
    *** TURN *** [4c 4h 8h] [3d]
    moffo47 has returned
    *** RIVER *** [4c 4h 8h 3d] [2s]
    romchris shows two pair, Tens and Fours
    brislion shows a pair of Fours
    romchris wins the pot (32,439) with two pair, Tens and Fours
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 32,439 | Rake 0
    Board: [4c 4h 8h 3d 2s]
    Seat 1: metsfan86 folded before the Flop
    Seat 2: raffyk9 folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: kikoman88 folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: brislion showed [Qh As] and lost with a pair of Fours
    Seat 5: romchris showed [Th Tc] and won (32,439) with two pair, Tens and Fours
    Seat 6: KINGSFOOL3 (button) folded before the Flop
    Seat 7: moffo47 (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 8: voff voff voff (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 9: zikzira folded before the Flop
    HOF table draw..

    Yeah pretty standard call to a 15bb reshove, not much you can do about losing flips.

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    Default Re: is this a standard call?

    Quote Originally Posted by moffo47 View Post
    HOF table draw..

    Yeah pretty standard call to a 15bb reshove, not much you can do about losing flips.
    lol i saw you on my table.

    I thought it was, but was just trying to work out his range as he was fairly nitty, therefore i wasnt really sure of calling. But i followed my gut and was wrong obv. lol

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    Default Re: is this a standard call?

    you have to take flips anytime in tourneys, you wouldn't be posting this if you flop an ace.

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    Default Re: is this a standard call?

    It's more line ball IMO and given your opp was playing "fairly nitty" I probably fold. Opp needs to be shoving wider than 88+, AJs+, AQ+ if my calculations are correct...

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    Default Re: is this a standard call?

    Quote Originally Posted by sidepocketkid View Post
    It's more line ball IMO and given your opp was playing "fairly nitty" I probably fold. Opp needs to be shoving wider than 88+, AJs+, AQ+ if my calculations are correct...
    lol...

    dont ever fold here.

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    Default Re: is this a standard call?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gtrain24 View Post
    lol...

    dont ever fold here.
    Dont think i ever fold regardless of who i am up against, but just wanted to get some views on whether it was the right call to make.

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    Default Re: is this a standard call?

    Quote Originally Posted by sidepocketkid View Post
    It's more line ball IMO and given your opp was playing "fairly nitty" I probably fold. Opp needs to be shoving wider than 88+, AJs+, AQ+ if my calculations are correct...
    i think we can safely assume pretty much all villains these days w 15bbs CO vs HJ are reshoving quite a bit wider than that range.

    i would be surprised if randoms fold 66, A9s, etc there.

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    Default Re: is this a standard call?

    Yep. Call. I'd need to be raising utg or utg+1 before laying AQ down to a conservative player's 15BB shove.

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