In-game adjustments to aggro dynamic

[TurnRiva]

I do this a bunch.

Esp vs someone running those numbers, so much easier finding value inducing than leading.

[Scott Wilson]

you've set it up, call it

imo u know instinctively when it is right to call this hand, and it's a snap call.

if this guy has AK or better, then just steer clear in future and wait for nuts/table change. you won't be able to read him for the rest of the session.

if you have him beat, he's going to donk off the rest of his stack very quickly and you are uber table captain with a free pass to blind steal and 3-bet. worth calling for this chance alone.

P.S. The guy has great OPR etc stats and a remarkably tight spread for a player that seems so LAG irl. I actually think you are beaten by a flop set.

[paulyramone]

you've Set It Up, Call It

Imo U Know Instinctively When It Is Right To Call This Hand, And It's A Snap Call.

if This Guy Has Ak Or Better, Then Just Steer Clear In Future And Wait For Nuts/table Change. You Won't Be Able To Read Him For The Rest Of The Session.

If You Have Him Beat, He's Going To Donk Off The Rest Of His Stack Very Quickly And You Are Uber Table Captain With A Free Pass To Blind Steal And 3-bet. Worth Calling For This Chance Alone.

P.s. The Guy Has Great Opr Etc Stats And A Remarkably Tight Spread For A Player That Seems So Lag Irl. I Actually Think You Are Beaten By A Flop Set.

Wtf?

[risk2Dupside]

ty for input fellas, results:

PokerStars Game #47265670286: Tournament #322020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (200/400) - 2010/07/26 8:15:39 AEST [2010/07/25 18:15:39 ET]
Table '322020010 795' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: risk2Dupside (24112 in chips)
Seat 2: degrr (14682 in chips)
Seat 3: Stenbek (32388 in chips)
Seat 4: Sleroy (25217 in chips)
Seat 5: pornsta19r87 (5735 in chips)
Seat 6: ArielBahia (12193 in chips)
Seat 7: glamp1 (3620 in chips)
Seat 8: serbie (12400 in chips)
Seat 9: Tae Joon Noh (3727 in chips)
pornsta19r87: posts small blind 200
ArielBahia: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to risk2Dupside [Qs Ad]
glamp1: folds
serbie: folds
Tae Joon Noh: folds
risk2Dupside: raises 400 to 800
degrr: folds
Stenbek: calls 800
Sleroy: folds
pornsta19r87: folds
ArielBahia: folds
*** FLOP *** [9h 7c Ah]
risk2Dupside: checks
Stenbek: bets 1675
risk2Dupside: calls 1675
*** TURN *** [9h 7c Ah] [4d]
risk2Dupside: checks
Stenbek: bets 3875
risk2Dupside: calls 3875
*** RIVER *** [9h 7c Ah 4d] [6s]
risk2Dupside: checks
Stenbek: bets 9875
risk2Dupside: calls 9875
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Stenbek: shows [2s 2c] (a pair of Deuces)
risk2Dupside: shows [Qs Ad] (a pair of Aces)
risk2Dupside collected 33050 from pot

[Scott Wilson]

Wtf?

yeah, i stand by this pauly. you set a guy up for the kill, only to find you've read him wrong and he's taken half your stack etc. happens to everyone. what follows is ugly if you keep locking heads with the guy. too easy to overread situations looking for payback.

risk - that's an awesome outcome. great read.

[paulyramone]

Mate, it really has nothing whatsoever to do with 'reads'.

It's about the optimal line in this hand, and I agree with most posters that check-calling and letting this type of player barrel is best.

[Scott Wilson]

Mate, it really has nothing whatsoever to do with 'reads'.

oh. my bad for skim-reading the thread.

[Strong Play]

I should clarify my initial post...

I do do this a bunch, but I also will bet the flop a bunch too... I wouldnt say this is my default line...

I think it's fine/good though against these type of ppl...

Irrrrrregardless of my choice to bet or check the flop, as soon as guys like this take the lead in the hand I let them keep it; (at least until im happy CRAI river, but this board doesnt precipitate that) and I think thats the point I'm trying to get at.

[hip]

against a unknown. what is the default line?
is it bet / get it in and hope they have AJ/AT/A8