How to play Jacks?

[DaNRL]

Full Tilt Poker Game #22742914231: $12,500 Guarantee (Rebuy) (175483366), Table 19 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 03:17:04 ET - 2010/08/01
Seat 1: aamulekk (6,809)
Seat 2: moagz (14,381)
Seat 3: duce6969 (36,726)
Seat 4: brin1285 (19,141)
Seat 5: LULU HELIPA (16,373)
Seat 6: Trouble (21,991)
Seat 7: Dominant5peciez (16,925)
Seat 8: danrl333 (15,071)
Seat 9: matzio (13,095)
aamulekk antes 50
moagz antes 50
duce6969 antes 50
brin1285 antes 50
LULU HELIPA antes 50
Trouble antes 50
Dominant5peciez antes 50
danrl333 antes 50
matzio antes 50
matzio posts the small blind of 250
aamulekk posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to danrl333 [Jd Jc]
moagz raises to 1,235
duce6969 folds
brin1285 folds
LULU HELIPA has 15 seconds left to act
LULU HELIPA raises to 4,500
Trouble folds
Dominant5peciez folds
danrl333????

[Strong Play]

i'd feel pretty good about a fold here.

[DaNRL]

Good - generally my instinct would be to jam - but I also think that's a big leak in my game and I'm trying to work on plugging a lot of my leaks at the moment - thanks mate

[Scott Wilson]

i'd feel pretty good about a fold here.

what's ur range for coming into this pot (presumably with 4-bet shove)?

KK, AA only?

[risk2Dupside]

what's ur range for coming into this pot (presumably with 4-bet shove)?

KK, AA only?

Doubt I'm folding QQ/AK....

[Strong Play]

some villains ill let qq/ak go, but thats only on the strength of a decent chunk of info...

qq+, ak here for me...

[risk2Dupside]

Good - generally my instinct would be to jam - but I also think that's a big leak in my game and I'm trying to work on plugging a lot of my leaks at the moment - thanks mate

I don't think getting it in is a "big leak"; don't get me wrong I don't think it's optimal given the preflop action but if you have a "lot of leaks" then cold fourbet jamming JJ for 30bb isn't gonna be at the top of them...I mean there's probably dead money, you're going to be flipping a ton and people fold shit that they shouldn't...just sayin.

[dave798111]

yea this is a rly ez fold. Given the 3b size the guy is:

a) never folding; and
b) probably not very good, which in this specific instance makes his range stronger imo.

I would get QQ+/AK in too although I think an argument could be made for folding AKo. AKo has 39.8% equity against JJ+, AK (JJ has 36.6% incidentally). However adding just a few other hands to the 3 bettor's range (eg AQs), or a few scenarios where the he folds (v unlikely but obv not impossible) dramatically increases your equity with AKo. Having said that, UTG has KK/AA some % of the time. I dunno given this is presumably a super soft tourney I wouldn't hate folding AKo here.

[SwoopAE]

Fold if villain is tight, 4bet shove if he's loose?