Correct vbet size

[CNT_CRUSHER]

I'd raised 3bb from sb into his bb on previous two orbits and sensed he would be stubborn here if i ran a non-standard line. 3/4 pot c-bet was deliberately high into a dry board. when he flatted that mid or bottom pair seemed v likely for op. snap min raise was trying to look like a stupid weak second bluff attempt. expected a hero call on rvr but overcooked it

dunno. maybe i got too cute and a std line would have paid off better. appreciate the feedback cc

I don't understand. Isn't him getting stubborn a reason for betting for greater value?

[Scott Wilson]

I don't understand. Isn't him getting stubborn a reason for betting for greater value?

i see ur point

whats the correct bet sizing for bet-bet-bet and for cr on turn?

i.e. how should i get max value can i extract from a guy who hits Q-little at best, more likely small pr?

[JABA]

LOL check min! If you wanna be ultra tricky seeing you have check raised min i dont mind the check raise river also( that would fck with his head) In my opinion his hand is not that strong maybe even picked up draw on the turn. But now your value bet on river after playing this weird line should be about 1/3 pot trying to induce a bluff raise plus thin hands calling.
If you are going to check raise turn it needs to be around 370 to 450. Then you can follow through with a big value river bet

[Strong Play]

what if its a check/insta-min?

eh eh

[Scott Wilson]

eh eh

Oh great...even the insta part was woeful...think I'll just stick to abc poker and arguing politix with the evil capitalists.

Jaba Thnx for input.

[TurnRiva]

check min raising the turn is lol

This

what if its a check/insta-min?

Strong line is strong.

-> On a serious note, I like b/b/b vs most villains, and if we c/r turn, please c/r a normal amount. If seems that the way you've talked ITT you feel a snap c/mr on turn will induce more action, but really think about how strong your line now looks and the value you will be losing. Does any draw really ever c/mr turn? No, so you really make your hand transparent to a big hand, which means its gong to be tough to find value on river AND you lose all your value vs draws (and its a pretty wet turn. Remember to think about what your lines looks like, not just being worried about folding out hands.

If I ever took this line, I have to vb river small, and I hate doing that in general.

[SwoopAE]

check min raising the turn is lol

This

As played bet 550 on the river, if he's calling 300-450 he's calling 550 with your read.

If we're not talking as played, then what TurnRiva said. If you're checkraising the turn, it should be a normal amount.

[SwoopAE]

LOL check min! If you wanna be ultra tricky seeing you have check raised min i dont mind the check raise river also

Yeah, um don't checkraise this river.

[Harry The Hamster]

what if its a check/insta-min?

who's laughing now dickhead?

[moffo47]

Yeah, um don't checkraise this river.

why? as if we don't ever have the best hand. I agree with jaba on this 1