micro cash. in position with small pair against spewtard

[berry1]

villain down a couple buys ins on this table. he isnt running the best but has been spewing a fair bit. pre flop running 25/20. isnt overly positionally aware (appears to have more balanced opening range than most at this stake). flop c-betting 60% turn c-betting 50% (small sample ~ 300 hands)

as for preflop had been 3-betting him fairly wide but decided to just flat this time. Flatted flop with button still to act (shutting down if he does anything). with plan to re-eval on the turn. reasonable turn for me even if his utg opening range is wider than most. I assume hes going to barrel most rivers with his air and good hands (at this point figure his range is weighted more heavily towards air). If i smooth the turn not doing it to fold too often on the river so given villains massive range it's going to be hard to decide which rivers are bricks. Given n this i can see arguments for all 3 options at this point. If someone can provide some thoughts would be much appreciated

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NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer Game#61710536669

safronoff ($33.77)
FireFox001 ($26.45)
Kapol ($26.54)
HERO ($107)
vleer12 ($25.72)

safronoff posts (SB) $0.10
FireFox001 posts (BB) $0.25

Dealt to HERO 6h 6s
Kapol raises to $0.87
HERO calls $0.87
vleer12 calls $0.87
fold, fold,
FLOP ($2.96) 7h 2s 4d
Kapol bets $2.25
HERO calls $2.25
vleer12 folds
TURN ($7.46) 7h 2s 4d 9d
Kapol bets $5.30
HERO???

[risk2Dupside]

Wow do people think this much at 25NL? I thought this was a pretty standard fold once he cbets into two people and follows up on turn?

[eddy]

as for preflop had been 3-betting him fairly wide but decided to just flat this time.

Plz never 3bet small pairs, especially in position unless he is an avid 4bettor and you are doing it to jam on his 4bet as small pairs don't play terribly vs his 4bet calling range. I think flat is mandatory

On the turn I think it's a fold, he may have picked up some equity on the turn card and is barrelling and is probably going to follow through on river due to most cards being good bluff cards/smack his range. You may well be ahead but he probably has good equity and your just gonna be in a tough spot on all rivers

agree with Risk, u def sound like a good thinking player for 25nl, good luck moving up!

[berry1]

moving up soon (just about rolled for 100nl). need to get used to grind of online cash and 6 tabling hurts my brain a little at the moment. in that case how narrow would u be 3-betting him here eddy?

guess i should just fold flop and wait for a better spot. just hard to resist sometimes cause so many clowns seem to habitually barrel these sorts of boards and im a bit of a station at heart

[SwoopAE]

Fold turn unless you have a particular read that he's bluffing.

Never call the turn to fold the river for obvious reasons.

[eddy]

Never call the turn to fold the river for obvious reasons.

I don't like making blanket statements like this. It may be correct in a lot of spots, but I know a lot of good regs who's range I love flatting the turn with my weak hands\bluffs catches\nuts cause I know their river tendandcies. I guess it just very read\opponent specific. Swoop could very well be right in relation to tournie players, I guess i'm just taking this with a cash game mentality.

if you find 6tabling hard, just 4table, there r no rules about this, just do what you feel most comfortable doing! hell 2table for all we care!

I'm someone who 3bets with a very polarized range vs most opponents. I guess it's because most of the time I don't have a a great read vs them due too not enough hands\being arrogant thinking every sux etc. It's very exploitable vs good regs, but tbh there r not too many out there who take advantage of this. I guess a range of AQ, 1010+ for value and then all suited hands like J4s etc. as bluffs is pretty solid. I don't think you encounter regs with a very high 4bet % at these stakes so you prob don't need to worry about balanced 4betting ranges etc.

sorry if this makes no sense, but I'm pretty drunk right now!!

gl mate and pm me if ya wanna chat cash game hands. Pretty sure I could get u crushing 100nl+ in no time!!

[berry1]

it makes a lot more sense than anything i write when drunk haha. i like the sound of that. i'll send a hand or 2 thru after my next session.

[dekkyboy]

Wow do people think this much at 25NL? I thought this was a pretty standard fold once he cbets into two people and follows up on turn?

Wow ! condescend much, genius ?

[risk2Dupside]

Wow ! condescend much, genius ?

agree with Risk, u def sound like a good thinking player for 25nl, good luck moving up!

misinterpret forum posts much?

[Hevydevy]

I don't like making blanket statements like this. It may be correct in a lot of spots, but I know a lot of good regs who's range I love flatting the turn with my weak hands\bluffs catches\nuts cause I know their river tendandcies. I guess it just very read\opponent specific. Swoop could very well be right in relation to tournie players, I guess i'm just taking this with a cash game mentality.

if you find 6tabling hard, just 4table, there r no rules about this, just do what you feel most comfortable doing! hell 2table for all we care!

I'm someone who 3bets with a very polarized range vs most opponents. I guess it's because most of the time I don't have a a great read vs them due too not enough hands\being arrogant thinking every sux etc. It's very exploitable vs good regs, but tbh there r not too many out there who take advantage of this. I guess a range of AQ, 1010+ for value and then all suited hands like J4s etc. as bluffs is pretty solid. I don't think you encounter regs with a very high 4bet % at these stakes so you prob don't need to worry about balanced 4betting ranges etc.

sorry if this makes no sense, but I'm pretty drunk right now!!

gl mate and pm me if ya wanna chat cash game hands. Pretty sure I could get u crushing 100nl+ in no time!!

Hi eddy, good post - just in terms of 3-betting pre in position, we should probably add that 3-betting ranges depend largely on villain's fold to 3-bet percentage.

Thus, if they have a high fold to 3-bet our range should be polarised to our big hands and complete trash hands.

Alternatively, if they often call 3-bets OOP you should expand your value range but pretty much eliminate trash from the range.

But as you say, at these stakes there won't be too many 4-bet bluffs unless villain is a maniac so probably best to stick to the A-Q+, 10-10+ range that eddy pointed out as a rough guide.