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    Any comments on the incredible hand that just played out on the WSOP coverage on ESPN with Lamb & Gianetti. 12 left in ME both players have deep stacks. From pokernews live reporting -

    From the cutoff seat, Ben Lamb raised to 675,000. Matt Giannetti called out of the big blind and the flop came down {A-Hearts}{9-Hearts}{2-Diamonds}. Giannetti checked and Lamb fired 700,000. Giannetti called and the turn was the {7-Diamonds}.

    On fourth street, both players checked to see the {2-Hearts} pair the board on the river. Giannetti checked and Lamb fired a big four million in to the pot of 3.14 million. Giannetti then tanked for several long minutes. Giannetti looked pained as he tanked and tanked. He cut out the chips from his stack to make the call and then tanked even longer. Finally, he stuck the chips in.

    Lamb turned over the {3-Clubs}{2-Spades} for trip deuces and Giannetti mucked his hand.

    On the TV we saw Gianetti actually held A9 and got rivered by a 2 outer.

    Any thoughts on how he may have differently played this hand flopping top 2 against an aggressive opponent. I must admit I'd be looking to build a bigger pot from the flop onwards with a check raise but maybe he thought the best way to make the most money was the check call 3 streets knowing lamb will prob fire all 3 with anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by captainpants View Post
    Any thoughts on how he may have differently played this hand flopping top 2 against an aggressive opponent. I must admit I'd be looking to build a bigger pot from the flop onwards with a check raise but maybe he thought the best way to make the most money was the check call 3 streets knowing lamb will prob fire all 3 with anything?
    A9 should try to extract value on an A92 flop vs the pfr's A-paint range and flush draws, not slowplay for hands to catch up.

    I'd cr/bet/bet, bet/cr/bet, bet/bet/bet. As played I hope I bet-fold scare river to a guy who will overbet pot for value/bluff rather than check-call or check-fold, just because there should be less bluffs in his raising than betting range whereas there should still be hands we beat in his calling range.

    It's probably normal to become a passive call station oop with 12 left in the main though. There is a lot of money, a lot of pressure, and big pots would be scary to play oop even with strong hands.
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    Surely you have to fire on the turn a decent pottish bet to stop/prevent the dual flushes from getting there cheaply on the river, when you are oop. The pot is no longer small after the bets on the flop, and is well worth protecting...

    but yes with 12 left at the biggest game in town, things would be going through your head with pot control and what not... not to mention how good Lamb had been running since.

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    Captain Hindsight, king of HH analysis.

    I don't hate it as a maximise EV play if he has Lamb on total air, which is likely given how the hand's played. I mean, I probably bet the turn when checked to but it isnt terrible, Gianetti knows what hes doing and given the actual hands they had his line is one of many that would be fine really

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    Agree with everything you say thret. The whole dynamic of people not putting money into the pot without the stone cold nuts was so interesting to watch all day. I can't fault them because its about 99% likely that I'd be doing the same thing knowing it was wrong. I bet if it was an el cheapo online sit'n'go the line gianetti would have taken would have been a million miles from the one he played.

    Swoop thanks for the abuse I was beginning to wonder if people could actually post on here without some dickhead coming on shooting off his mouth but you saved the day. Your brilliant analysis saying you would bet if checked to on the turn showed you up for being the imbecile you are since gianetti with the A9 is 1st to act.
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    Obviously Giannetti went for the turn check-raise against the most aggressive player on the table; Lamb double-barrels there more often than not. When this plan failed and the river was a bad card he tilt-levelled himself into paying off the river overbet.

    Hate donking the flop here, which 2/3 of the lines you suggested Thret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulyramone View Post
    Hate donking the flop here, which 2/3 of the lines you suggested Thret.
    If you explain why, people can think about the hand from your perspective as well as mine.
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    By donking flop you get Lamb to fold all the air/most hands you beat, which he would almost always c-bet on this flop and which comprise a large part of his late-position opening range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulyramone View Post
    Obviously Giannetti went for the turn check-raise against the most aggressive player on the table; Lamb double-barrels there more often than not. When this plan failed and the river was a bad card he tilt-levelled himself into paying off the river overbet.

    Hate donking the flop here, which 2/3 of the lines you suggested Thret.
    Giannetti check-called the turn. If c-r was the plan, it only failed as a result of him not pulling the trigger.
    Check folding for pot control...

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