another interesting hand

[hip]

Thoughts on turn raise?
I prefer raising for value against pair/flush draw combo hands.

PokerStars Game #67143675674: Tournament #437984640, $6.45+$0.55 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2011/09/07 21:21:05 AEST [2011/09/07 7:21:05 ET]
Table '437984640 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: hipnotic_au (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: pusher13885 (1500 in chips)
Seat 3: 5valdis832 (1500 in chips)
Seat 4: TelefonLars (1500 in chips)
Seat 5: Raidoboy (1500 in chips)
Seat 6: Typicalfish (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Bend444 (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: Hella Wahn (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: El Pacient77 (1500 in chips)
pusher13885: posts small blind 10
5valdis832: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hipnotic_au [Td Ts]
TelefonLars: folds
Raidoboy: folds
Typicalfish: folds
Bend444: folds
Hella Wahn: folds
El Pacient77: folds
hipnotic_au: raises 20 to 40
pusher13885: folds
5valdis832: calls 20
*** FLOP *** [4h 8h Jh]
5valdis832: checks
hipnotic_au: bets 40
5valdis832: raises 40 to 80
hipnotic_au: calls 40
*** TURN *** [4h 8h Jh] [7c]
5valdis832: bets 40
hipnotic_au: raises 60 to 100
5valdis832: raises 1280 to 1380 and is all-in
hipnotic_au: folds
Uncalled bet (1280) returned to 5valdis832
5valdis832 collected 450 from pot
5valdis832: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 450 | Rake 0
Board [4h 8h Jh 7c]
Seat 1: hipnotic_au (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: pusher13885 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: 5valdis832 (big blind) collected (450)
Seat 4: TelefonLars folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Raidoboy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Typicalfish folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Bend444 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Hella Wahn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: El Pacient77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Strong Play]

3x it pre

as played if you're going to raise the turn, raise a bit more.

[moffo47]

why are we raising turn? I would be very happy to call turn and reevaluate river. also 3x pre

[hip]

value against pair/flush draw hands like ...maybe it's a bit narrow since he's shown strength on the flop.

[risk2Dupside]

blah didn't see the mincheck raise, yeh don't raise turn

[moffo47]

value against pair/flush draw hands like ...maybe it's a bit narrow since he's shown strength on the flop.

We might get a small amount of value from this hand, but he can also just send the pile in and we obviously have to fold and lose the 60%+ eequity we have so just call down and call all non heart rivers

[hip]

Ok.
And on a side note (looking to see if anyone agrees). My hand is a call on the flop only because i'm in position.
If i were out of position, I'd have to fold the flop (unless villan is agro and I intend to call down safe cards on later streets).

[moffo47]

I would call flop here.. but I definitely do not hate folding, as it will be hard to continue on any Q, K, A or heart turns, also we could definitely be behind already. Depending on my mood, I may check back this flop

[hip]

that was the first hand of holdem i've played online in months (even starting stacks)...im not folding pocket tens on the flop