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    Default nlhe500 live

    Title is incorrect - it's actually nlhe300
    Blinds are $2/3
    Hero is on $340 and villan on ~$800+

    Thoughts on this line please:

    Hero has

    Hero raises UTG to $10
    fold
    fold
    fold
    fold
    Hijack calls
    folds
    SB calls $10
    BB folds

    Flop
    SB checks
    Hero bets $15
    Hijack folds
    SB raises to $50
    Hero calls $50
    Turn
    SB checks
    Hero bets $65
    SB calls $65
    River
    SB checks
    Hero bets $215 (allin)
    Last edited by hip; 17-10-2011 at 07:12 AM.

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    Default Re: nlhe500 live

    really hate this, it's live and some guy with a shitload in his stack will just lol and call Kx

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    Default Re: nlhe500 live

    seems spewy to me. also if he's going to fold to a shove he probably folds for 80-100. cant see us getting too many folds on that river ever though, as played i just give up and check back.
    Last edited by berry1; 17-10-2011 at 07:07 PM.

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    Default Re: nlhe500 live

    I don't mind how you played this hand until the turn. I think you should have taken a free card here, you hit boom (even if you spike a J or 10 you have show down value too but KJ or K10 would def be in villain's range here), if you don't just muck to his river bet or, if checked, you could make a play at a smaller pot if you felt so.

    As played; I also like what berry has said 80- 100 is a much better bet than the all in shove. As I think the only hand that he could have here, after he flats your turn bet(I think this eliminates the air possibilities) is, would be like 7 8 (7 8 spades makes sense for check raise on flop), or Kx, as two pair or set would have got you in on the turn - me thinks.

    IMO If you are repping any K, value is more believable than the all in shove. What happened? You get called by a 7?

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    Default Re: nlhe500 live

    I'll posts results after some more discussion.

    My turn bet was to get him to fold one pair (he mite have a draw). When he check/calls the turn, my thinking is he probably doesn't have a hand here that he can call a river bet with. Because the turn was a draw heavy board and the river semi-bricked.

    I still am not convinced on the best line here. All i can tell you abuot hte villan is that about half an hour earlier he called $25 pre with os, flopped trips and had the he's opponent shove with KK. Then 15 minutes later, he folded to a river overbet in a spot that looked like he's opponent had a busted flush draw.

    Don't know what the best line is here. Because it's a live game, should i just check the turn back and hope to bink? Bet the turn and give up on the river?
    Re-raise the flop?

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    Default Re: nlhe500 live

    Unless the table is REALLY tight (and I'm assuming this is at Crown, so this is rarely the case) I don't like the UTG open at all. The rest of the hand just compounds that error, and is really spewy IMO. I would expect to be picked-off by Kx very often here.

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    Default Re: nlhe500 live

    yea didnt see the utg open. definitely dont open this wide utg at a standard 2/3. absolutely no value in having a balanced range.....

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    Default Re: nlhe500 live

    Just to add to this

    Live at these stakes your pretty much always going to get flatted in at least one spot (going heads up to a flop is fairly rare) so you want a really nitty utg and mp opening range. iso raising and opening hijack cutoff and button wide and playing a bunch of pots in position is a good approach.

    Basically, most of your opponents are absolute retards and should be treated as such until proven otherwise. You shouldn't be trying anything too tricky. Stick to the real basics. mostly play in position, run over the old nits and extract value really wide against the loose passive clowns. You shouldn't be doing things like this too often.


    just my opinion

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    Default Re: nlhe500 live

    villan soul-reads with a pair.

    show's

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    Default Re: nlhe500 live

    On a table where 78os is good for a 8bb raise, should i be opening up my calling, raising, 3 bet range?

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