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    Default Re: Burswood bad players.

    u lost 20bb. does it really matter

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    It just makes me throw up. If you were in that situation would you call in that position? A raised pot, re-raised all in. It is not about the money, it is about how well you played the hand. I am looking for opinions on whether or not you think it is worth calling with that kind of hand?

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    This hand is no different to many other thousands of hands dealt at casinos all around the country...but you seem to not factor in ALL facts...regardless of how well the hand is played by any player or not. This is not specific to Burswood Casino.
    1. You have bought in short to a game with $100 whereby opponents may have anywhere up to $2000 in front of them...do you think they are even going to blink at $100?...That is the problem with shortstacking.....you minimise your risk but it then becomes that much harder to raise people out of pots..(if that was what your intention)
    2. Your hand QQ vs A8ss is only a 66/34 approx favourite to win the hand when headsup....even less of a chance threeway...
    3. What do you want people to call your allin with? IF it was me i would be happy with someone calling A8....bummer that they hit....nothing to see here...move on..reload....
    3.1 So it would be OK if she had AK then for her to call your bet?
    3.1.1 Its your first hand...What are the chances that you have a monster first up? Maybe she knows that she has Player B beat...You havent called the reraise to $120 allin yet so she has no idea of the strength of your hand or that you will even call? so she calls first based only on that knowledge! and that you may likely fold.
    4. A single hand does not denote bad players in general...bad play..possible but not necessarily.....marginal...most likely.
    5/6/7/8 onwards...bucketloads of other considerations...tells,prior history, female player inebriated?/high/needing to go home,distracted etc..but you get the picture

    Cliff notes
    It happens all the time...A good player will say NH and keep them at the table for the rest of the night knowing that chances are they will lose it back....dont educate the fish..surely you dont want them to play better in the future ..VARIANCE..change the title to bad beat... buy in for the max and protect your hand with a 4 bet to $300 allin and chances are Female player folds.

    Bear...You can teach an old dog new tricks

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    All the above especially
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    A good player will say NH and keep them at the table for the rest of the night knowing that chances are they will lose it back....dont educate the fish..surely you dont want them to play better in the future
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    Quote Originally Posted by bear View Post
    This hand is no different to many other thousands of hands dealt at casinos all around the country...but you seem to not factor in ALL facts...regardless of how well the hand is played by any player or not. This is not specific to Burswood Casino.
    1. You have bought in short to a game with $100 whereby opponents may have anywhere up to $2000 in front of them...do you think they are even going to blink at $100?...That is the problem with shortstacking.....you minimise your risk but it then becomes that much harder to raise people out of pots..(if that was what your intention)
    2. Your hand QQ vs A8ss is only a 66/34 approx favourite to win the hand when headsup....even less of a chance threeway...
    3. What do you want people to call your allin with? IF it was me i would be happy with someone calling A8....bummer that they hit....nothing to see here...move on..reload....
    3.1 So it would be OK if she had AK then for her to call your bet?
    3.1.1 Its your first hand...What are the chances that you have a monster first up? Maybe she knows that she has Player B beat...You havent called the reraise to $120 allin yet so she has no idea of the strength of your hand or that you will even call? so she calls first based only on that knowledge! and that you may likely fold.
    4. A single hand does not denote bad players in general...bad play..possible but not necessarily.....marginal...most likely.
    5/6/7/8 onwards...bucketloads of other considerations...tells,prior history, female player inebriated?/high/needing to go home,distracted etc..but you get the picture

    Cliff notes
    It happens all the time...A good player will say NH and keep them at the table for the rest of the night knowing that chances are they will lose it back....dont educate the fish..surely you dont want them to play better in the future ..VARIANCE..change the title to bad beat... buy in for the max and protect your hand with a 4 bet to $300 allin and chances are Female player folds.

    Bear...You can teach an old dog new tricks
    Well a thumbs up for a great reply. Thanks for that, appreciate the time you put into reading and replying to it.

    That being said, in Perth W.A. even thou you may have heard from this post on 2+2 that they're the worse players around. Burswood Casino, Perth, WA - Page 13 - Poker Venues -- Two Plus Two Poker Forums
    Very rarely have I seen stacks above 1.5k... Only on the more serious tables like 5/5 have I seen bigger stacks. As of 2/5 the competition is just way too soft with too many passive/loose.
    I gotta say your reply did clear a lot of things up.

    Thanks. (Y)

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    Bear, you still the man
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    Quote Originally Posted by dingt View Post
    Ok so just to give you the ideas of players in Perth, W.A at burswood casino.

    I decided to play the 2/5 300 max buy in.

    My buy in: $100


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    i got this far.

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    i think u have a legitimate bad beat story here

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