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[mfrumar]

Game #1763997170 - (blinds $0.25/$0.50) No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2006/10/11-08:36:46.5 (CST)Table "Batu (5 max)" (real money) -- Seat 3 is the buttonSeat 1: cvillecoach ($49.55 in chips)Seat 2: ard14 ($5.50 in chips)Seat 3: mfrumar ($72.05 in chips)Seat 4: Jesüs ($46.45 in chips)Seat 5: Jointmaker ($13.00 in chips)Jesüs : Post Small Blind ($0.25)Jointmaker: Post Big Blind ($0.50)Dealing...Dealt to mfrumar [ Ah ]Dealt to mfrumar [ Ac ]cvillecoach: Foldard14 : Foldmfrumar : Raise ($2)Jesüs : Call ($1.75)Jointmaker: Call ($1.50)*** FLOP *** : [ Th 5s 5c ]Jesüs : CheckJointmaker: Checkmfrumar : Bet ($3)Jesüs : Raise ($6)Jointmaker: Foldmfrumar : Raise ($12)Jesüs : Raise ($18)mfrumar : Call ($9)*** TURN *** : [ Th 5s 5c ] [ As ]Jesüs : Bet ($10)mfrumar : Call ($10)*** RIVER *** : [ Th 5s 5c As ] [ 5d ]mfrumar said, "omg"Jesüs : Bet ($10.45)mfrumar : Call ($10.45)Jesüs said, "=)"*** SUMMARY ***Pot: $92.90 | Rake: $2Board: [ Th 5s 5c As 5d ]cvillecoach didn't bet (folded)ard14 didn't bet (folded)mfrumar lost $46.45 (showed hand) [ Ah Ac ] (a full house, aces full of fives)Jesüs bet $46.45, collected $92.90, net +$46.45 (showed hand) [ 6c 5h ] (four of a kind, fives)Jointmaker lost $2 (folded)

[phil markey]

i dont care if god is in the blinds - i raise more pre-flop

[footy]

$2 is fine preflop.i fold after being raised twice on the flop. once you hit the miracle on the turn you should raise. it is obvious he has a 5 and you gotta just push. it's nearly only a minraise.

[mfrumar]

My line of thinking -$2 is good preflop raise as anything higher was being folded to (i'd been on this table against same players for ~2hrs.Once flop comes out, i feel its safe and raise. he minraises, i put him on a weak 10. So i raise to 12, and he raises to 18. I was very very close to laying down but i jus thought there was a chance he slowplayed JJ QQ or KK preflop as he had previously.I hit the miracle on the turn, and i thought there is no point in pushing there because if he had a 5, he was calling anyway and river would be the same, but if he was bluffing he may have folded to turn raise. This way he was always pushing the river as he was 1st to act.

[BoxerShorts]

Phil, surely when you get AA, you want some action. All that a bigger preflop bet will do is chase off speculative hands and scoop the blinds. Plus it tends to scream "I got AA" when you suddenly bet a lot more than the usual preflop raise.As far as action goes. He told you twice on the flop that he really liked his hand by re-raising you so I think you can put him on either 10 10, 5 5 or some hand with a 5. It wouldn't be the worst lay down in history of you folded there and then.With your 2 outter hitting on the turn, I would at least re-raise him to $25, if not push all in. The chances of him having 55 (the only hand you fear) are quite slim. It is just such a remote possibility that you are beat, or will be beaten with your hand as it currently stands.The river. Well, if you put him on 10 10, then you cant lay it down. If you put him on a 5, then its still a tough laydown. I think I lose it all here too.Pretty sick hand in hindsight, you catching a 2 outter to re-take the lead on the turn, and him catching a 1 outter to pip you on the river.