Another Star City Story

[JimMcEvoy]

My first two posts were about how Star's poker room is very flawed, so I thought I'd share this story where they sort of got it right:5/10 half pot game, 3 players in the hand, Player 1 bets limit which is $90, Player 2 goes all in for $95 total, Player 3 calls, Player 1 now re-raisesThat's right, by Player 2 going all in for $5 more the dealer thought the betting was re-opened for player 1.At this point I quietly walk away from the table and ask the floor about a 'hypothetical' situation about whether or not this re-opens the betting, she look's at me a bit confused and said, "I don't know that a tough one, I've never seen that happen before"Right at this point several players at the table have now requested a ruling so she gets called over, and she said to me "This just happened didn't it?" I said yes and she said thanks for the heads up.She comes over the the table, the dealer explains the situation, and she looks stumped, and of course many players at the table are trying to say the betting is not re-opened, but she put the game on hold and goes off to the computer/phone to look up the ruling.About 20 minutes later she comes back and makes the correct (by correct I mean what most other casinos do) ruling that the betting is not re-opened.Player 1 flopped the nuts and Player 2 hit his 4-outer and won the potSo although the dealer and floor had no idea what the rules are at least they got it right in the end.

[Blu3B3ar]

What's going on here?This is a very common situation in pot/half pot/no limit games and there is no excuse for the casino staff for not knowing the correct rules for this situation instantly, even if it's just for 20 minutes.

[ekwinix]

Can someone explain why player 1 cannot reraise the pot?Player 2 re-raised (albiet all that he had left in front of him), Player 3 called, and now the option is back up to Player1.Are you saying that Player 1 has only two options: fold OR call?How does that work?

[Blu3B3ar]

I do not have the complete set of star city rules (can be found in the casino authority website if anybody is interested) but the general convention used in no-limit/pot-limit games is outlined in the Robert's rules of poker, which is a well-respected and fairly authoratative list of rules.----------------------------------------------No-limit rules (also apply to pot limit games)3. All raises must be equal to or greater than the size of the previous bet or raise on that betting round, except for an all-in wager. A player who has already checked or called may not subsequently raise an all-in bet that is less than the full size of the last bet or raise. (The half-the-size rule for reopening the betting is for limit poker only.)Example: Player A bets $100 and Player B raises $100 more, making the total bet $200. If Player C goes all in for less than $300 total (not a full $100 raise), and Player A calls, then Player B has no option to raise again, because he wasn’t fully raised. (Player A could have raised, because Player B raised.) http://www.diamondcs.net/~thecoach/RobsPkrRules3.htm