A+ Post more pleaseOK this post certainly suggests that you are not in fact a moron so I withdraw that comment insofar as I applied it to you.
I disagree with you regarding the taxation issue being settled, but that's for another day.
I guess what I am confused about is this - which full time players on this forum espouse their own virtues? Can you name some of them? I understand that some of them post in a cliquey kind of way, with a lot of in-jokes etc. That is really a function of them all knowing each other, and spending 30+ hours per week playing the game that forms the basis of this forum against each other. It doesn't really have anything to do with whether they are making a lot of money.
I may be wrong, but I can't recall anyone making any brash statements about how much they win from poker. I know that poker reporting websites and mainstream newspapers often misrepresent the amount that people win, particularly by implying that a person's gross winnings are equivalent to their profits. However this is obviously not the fault of the players on this forum.
I know Joel personally, and I think I probably know most of the other people who post in a fashion similar to Joel. Their sarcasm and 'superior' attitude don't stem from the fact that they believe they are better at poker than everyone else. They are just individuals with a very dry, caustic wit. Joel takes the same attitude regarding issues about which it is clear to him and everyone else that he knows absolutely nothing.
If you read through the beginners' and hand history forums, I think you will find countless instances of full-time players attempting to assist less experienced players.
Ultimately I have read through this thread and I don't understand the hatred and vitriol spewing from numerous people, or at least I don't understand the severity of it. It seems a lot of people are very keen to tear down the guys who play full-time. This is a fairly unique phenomenon, as people who participate recreationally in other activities have a tendency to support and respect other people who enjoy the same activity but do so professionally. I suppose this stems from the fact that in a sense people appoint themselves as 'professional' poker players, so the delineation between the recreational and professional player is less clear.
In any event given this forum is unmoderated now, I guess that I would suggest that people who seem to be reasonably intelligent such as yourself consider what you are actually trying to achieve when you post here. There will always be some extremist idiots, but when increasing numbers of relatively normal posters hop on board the hate train, it becomes fairly unnattractive for anyone, whether 'professional' or recreational, to post anything worthwhile whatsoever here. That's what you have seen over the last few months, and I guess to a large extent that doesn't really bother me. So why am I making this post? I don't really know. But I've made it now so here it is.