SP

you, more than anyone, know the history behind that comment. you have inflamed many threads mate, and if your intention is to act as an unbiased moderator then u fail.

not only was Al's comment yet another subtle self-serving dig, it was about the hundredth like it and added nothing to the thread discussion. it merely restated a point already made in a far more professional way by risk and others.

i've posted hands to this forum knowing full well that my line in the hands would show leaks, hoping that i'd gain some idea of a better way to approach hands. have another read of the way i responded to risk and grunters advice. it was respected and appreciated.

there are very few amateur players who are prepared to show hands on this thread because they fear being ridiculed. that's a pretty sad indictment on the forum as a whole. im 40, love an argument and i have a pretty thick skin, so i persisted.

stop being so pathetically concerned about OPs rejecting or questioning the advice they are given. it's nearly always digging further into a root problem in their game which can then be further explored. i've cringed at the number of times that pro players in this thread have openly mocked further posts from an OP and killed any chance of the thread having some useful outcome.

my thanks to risk, grunter and several others who saw what i was doing and let a few discussions ride even when i persisted supporting a line and patiently explained why my thinking was wrong. this has made more difference than you realise. every time you thought i was rejecting your prof advice, rest assured i was doing the exact opposite.


i regret posting to this forum under my own name, but what's done is done. every post i've made to this forum has been made with a genuine love of the game.

later.

yeah, would be happy to. i feel like Steve Waugh hooking at the moment.

Edit: I don't know how to go about getting coaching. Ideally, it would be from one of the regs on this forum who has enjoyed my donkumentaries over the past year and is already familiar with the leaks. I do promise to stfu and listen.

I know mate. I build up stacks easily, then the leaks kill me. I'm just lost once i get close to cl. Not sure what i shld be doing.

I dont know how coaching works. Were all u guys coached? Would like to spend a cpl hours talking general strat, especially large stack strat, then see where it leads. Who wants a project?

what r u saying here?

thnx grunter

ok, calling KJ pre flop is not a good idea. staggers me, but thats the reason i post these threads.

'only raise flop to get it in or as a bluff' - a little piece of wisdom i've been really missing. thnx

listening to advice - well one reg here agreed with being agg in 6-max and raising the flop here, then others disagreed. so i kept digging. i also conceded the line when risk mentioned it. SP asked first up what my thinking was when raising the flop, so I posted my thinking.

i'm not the only person who has told Al to bugger off. when he posts strat answers they're good. but 95% of Al's posts are not strat answers.

ok. i give up. just want to point out a couple of things:

1. i'm running 1/400 in the tournament at the time this hand came up. i also ft'd the same event a few weeks back. it's not an uncomfortable buy-in lvl for me, just an unusual situation.

2. i appreciate the comments regarding flatting the turn, but no-one has offered a plan for the hand in the event that PFR flats, raises or folds. i'd be genuinely interested in this. (risk - sry, i can't remember the thread you are referring to mate.)

3. i'm not raising to build a pot here, i'm raising to take it down with what is very likely the best hand and move on to the next. i tend to end the hand quickly with a JT, two club flop since half the deck will have me guessing on the turn, especially if it's 3-way.

4. moffo is the only guy to mention that 6-max can be hyper aggressive at times, with very wide PFR ranges. in light of that, would be interested to hear ppls thoughts on PFR's likely range here (especially in light of PFRs likely read of me muscling the small blind). this was kinda the whole point of the thread.

5. not sure whether you are suggesting folding or raising the KJ pre, but if you are suggesting folding KJ with 5-1 odds pre-flop then i can't agree.

6. Al, i couldn't give a shit about your opinion mate, so stay out of my threads.

nice to hear from you again mate

nah, i'm lost. if i flat and PFR raises, then i don't know how to range the guy. i'd raise nearly every time in this situation, so dumb it down for me. what's the correct line in a 6-max game in this situation given that action from PFR is very likely here?

with one post? yeah unlikely. real risk wouldn't say anything that stupid.

yeah, thnx risk. appreciate your comments.

fwiw initial bet out of sb was from low stakes fish who had probe bet/folded half a dozen times pre and post flop leading up to this. 1475 was simply representing the hand i had, which had sb easily beat. didn't want to run top pair into a 3-way pot if Pokercini was connected with the board. raise to 4000 from Pokercini was unexpected but felt i had to respect, despite having a small part of his range beat. Pokercini has very strong stats and was unlikely to overvalue here.

is that ok SP?

nice

PokerStars Game #49057082349: Tournament #328010015, $70+$7 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (100/200) - 2010/09/03 14:49:43 AEST [2010/09/03 0:49:43 ET]
Table '328010015 25' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: papergirl962 (5205 in chips)
Seat 2: jamesboag (20312 in chips)
Seat 3: MCLegend (5690 in chips)
Seat 4: Pokerccini (9945 in chips)
Seat 5: GraveDanger3 (4900 in chips)
Seat 6: florochka (3125 in chips)
papergirl962: posts the ante 25
jamesboag: posts the ante 25
MCLegend: posts the ante 25
Pokerccini: posts the ante 25
GraveDanger3: posts the ante 25
florochka: posts the ante 25
papergirl962: posts small blind 100
jamesboag: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jamesboag [Jh Kd]
MCLegend: folds
Pokerccini: raises 200 to 400
GraveDanger3: folds
florochka: folds
papergirl962: calls 300
jamesboag: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [Ts Jc 2c]
papergirl962: bets 400
jamesboag: raises 1075 to 1475
Pokerccini: raises 2525 to 4000
papergirl962: folds
jamesboag: ?

yeah the discussion led to whether it was possible.

This came up at the end of second hr. Both players have very strong stats. Most of you will know BK I'd imagine.

pipalive claims he folded 88 here. he had 11k stk left. is a fold correct?

PokerStars Game #49050363816: Tournament #328010874, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2010/09/03 10:55:04 AEST [2010/09/02 20:55:04 ET]
Table '328010874 15' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: jamesboag (12188 in chips)
Seat 3: carlsbaddie (7852 in chips)
Seat 4: Blue Knight1 (25540 in chips)
Seat 5: Muck'Em1107 (6425 in chips)
Seat 6: IraandOleg (5249 in chips)
Seat 7: pipalive (25450 in chips)
Seat 8: Kriwiczsky (8390 in chips)
Seat 9: edvic114 (20285 in chips)
pipalive: posts small blind 100
Kriwiczsky: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jamesboag [Qs 4c]
edvic114: folds
jamesboag: folds
carlsbaddie: folds
Blue Knight1: raises 400 to 600
Muck'Em1107: folds
IraandOleg: folds
pipalive: raises 1600 to 2200
Kriwiczsky: folds
Blue Knight1: calls 1600
*** FLOP *** [6h 8h 4s]
calo014 is connected
pipalive: bets 2000
Blue Knight1: calls 2000
*** TURN *** [6h 8h 4s] [7h]
pipalive: bets 2400
Blue Knight1: raises 3800 to 6200
pipalive: raises 3800 to 10000
Blue Knight1: raises 11340 to 21340 and is all-in
pipalive: folds
Uncalled bet (11340) returned to Blue Knight1
Blue Knight1 collected 28600 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 28600 | Rake 0
Board [6h 8h 4s 7h]
Seat 1: jamesboag folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: carlsbaddie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Blue Knight1 collected (28600)
Seat 5: Muck'Em1107 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: IraandOleg (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: pipalive (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 8: Kriwiczsky (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: edvic114 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

did u come unstuck OP?

This. Play any level you are comfortable at. If you find yourself playing tight/scared, then it might be the $$ worrying you.

Tony/Progolf - genius. Tears of laughter

V is fairly new LAG based on TS stats. -ROI, >100 mtts, high early busto rate. This was the first hand i'd contested with him. LAG seemed pretty accurate based on the few hands i'd observed to this point, but it was very early in the mtt.

Hugely useful feedback. ty guys.

+1

LOL

Dealer: ZeelandBoy, it's your turn. You have 14 seconds to act
Dealer: Player ZeelandBoy has requested TIME
Dealer: Game #48724601868: Tony12345678 wins pot (9,750)
amarilloo [observer]: VOVA
amarilloo [observer]: U ARE A ****ING DONK
Dealer: Bluedog428, it's your turn. You have 14 seconds to act
amarilloo [observer]: THIRD GUY CALL WITH 99?????
amarilloo [observer]: U SEE CARDS?===
amarilloo [observer]: U ARE A MEMBER OF JOKER STARS???
Dealer: kaftar baz has a flush, Ten high
Dealer: Game #48724624629: kaftar baz wins pot (128,500) with a flush, Ten high
Dealer: Limits going up: blinds 1500/3000 ante 300
amarilloo [observer]: DDONK
amarilloo [observer]: AND SICK
Aleeeeeeeex!: wtf lol
Dealer: Bluedog428, it's your turn. You have 14 seconds to act
amarilloo [observer]: RI T FILHO DDA PUTA
Dealer: ZeelandBoy, it's your turn. You have 14 seconds to act
amarilloo [observer]: IDE TDS PA PUTA Q VOS PARIU
amarilloo [observer]: CABROES DE MERDA
Aleeeeeeeex!: he just called your mother a *****
Dealer: Player ZeelandBoy has requested TIME
Aleeeeeeeex!: then something about something being ****
Aleeeeeeeex!: haha
amarilloo [observer]: moderador
Dealer: ZeelandBoy, it's your turn. You have 14 seconds to act
Moderator32 [Moderator]: I had politley asked to keep all chat friendly
Dealer: Player ZeelandBoy has requested TIME
amarilloo [observer]: VAI PA GRANDA PUTA Q T PARIU
jamesboag: i thought he was singing the national anthem
Dealer: Game #48724659674: ZeelandBoy wins pot (43,700)
Moderator32 [Moderator]: Please note that we only take action on Non-English calls when the caller is seated at the table
Aleeeeeeeex!: haha
Moderator32 [Moderator]: Pardon the interruption and good luck.
amarilloo [observer]: SUCK MY ****